Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Oral Answers to Questions

Alex Cunningham Excerpts
Tuesday 16th May 2023

(1 year, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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I call the shadow Minister.

Alex Cunningham Portrait Alex Cunningham (Stockton North) (Lab)
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We have heard the human cost of the Government’s policies, but I have had the pleasure of facing several—four or perhaps five—Justice Ministers across the Dispatch Box who claimed they would sort out the courts backlog. They have all failed. Contrary to what the Minister said, Crown court cases increased by 6% on the previous year in February: up 3,500 to nearly 61,000. Magistrates court cases were up 1,600 to more than 345,000. President of the Law Society Lubna Shuja has said:

“The data cuts through the rhetoric and clearly shows that delays in the criminal justice system aren’t coming down anytime soon.”

What new rhetoric does the Minister have today?

Mike Freer Portrait Mike Freer
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for not asking a question about Common Platform, which makes a refreshing change. On the issue of reducing the backlog, it is not rhetoric—these are facts. The outstanding case load—

Alex Cunningham Portrait Alex Cunningham
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The fact is it is going up.

Mike Freer Portrait Mike Freer
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The outstanding case load is coming down from the impact of the Criminal Bar Association—

Alex Cunningham Portrait Alex Cunningham
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No it is not!

Mike Freer Portrait Mike Freer
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Well, if the hon. Gentleman waits until the figures are published at the end of June, he will see that the case load is coming down. I repeat: this is not rhetoric. These are facts. More judges this year, more judges next year, more money in the criminal justice system for legal aid, Nightingale courts, uncapped sitting days—these are practical measures that will improve access to justice.

Alex Cunningham Portrait Alex Cunningham
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They are not working!

Mike Freer Portrait Mike Freer
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Well, they are working. The hon. Gentleman will not want to admit it, but if he waits to see the facts when they are published, I hope he will then realise that we are taking tangible action to improve the capacity of our courts.