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NHS Reorganisation

Debate between Rosie Cooper and Lord Evans of Rainow
Wednesday 16th March 2011

(13 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Rosie Cooper Portrait Rosie Cooper (West Lancashire) (Lab)
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I have spoken in this place on several occasions about the deeply disturbing reforms that the Government are proposing to our national health service. On those occasions I have accused the Secretary of State of glibness and hubris, and as each day passes, as each new piece of information comes to light and as we scrutinise the detail of the Health and Social Care Bill, he proves my assertions right. He currently presides over what I can only describe as an unholy mess that will have huge negative consequences for the NHS and the people who love it and depend on it.

I tell the Secretary of State that the Opposition have seen through his plans, and the Liberal Democrats, who are on his side of the Chamber, see through them as well. Many of his colleagues are very nervous about them, and yesterday the British Medical Association and medical professionals made a clear and unequivocal statement that they, too, see through them. As the plans unfold further, I can tell hon. Members that patients and the British public see through them as well.

Despite the broken promises, the Secretary of State and the Prime Minister seem to think that their NHS reforms are a good idea. I am not sure that they are 100% convinced, though, given that they did not seem confident enough to share the details of their plans with the British public before the general election. In fact, the Prime Minister was very clear in his promise to the British people:

“no more pointless top-down reorganisations”

of the NHS. He even said:

“When your family relies on the NHS all of the time—day after day, night after night—you know how precious it is.”

How quickly forgotten those words were.

Some people felt reassured that, whatever else might happen if the Tories were elected, the NHS would be left untouched. How wrong they were. Today we find the NHS in a state of turmoil and facing massive reorganisation, with hundreds of health workers laid off and its very future threatened by a desire to set up a commercially driven market in health care. This very lunchtime, the Prime Minister said, “We are not reorganising the bureaucracy of the NHS. We are abolishing the bureaucracy of the NHS.” The bit he left off was that private providers would be doing that work. Who is he kidding?

Rosie Cooper Portrait Rosie Cooper
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I give way.

Lord Evans of Rainow Portrait Graham Evans
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I thank the hon. Lady—

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Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)
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Order. The hon. Lady will have to sit down during the hon. Gentleman’s intervention.

Lord Evans of Rainow Portrait Graham Evans
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I am new to the House, but I seem to recall the right hon. Member for Leigh (Andy Burnham), who was then the Secretary of State for Health, saying that we should

“celebrate the role of the private sector in the NHS.”

What has changed for Labour Members? [Interruption.]

Rosie Cooper Portrait Rosie Cooper
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I am sorry, I did not hear the end of that.

Lord Evans of Rainow Portrait Graham Evans
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When he was Secretary of State, the right hon. Member for Leigh said that we should be celebrating

“the role of the private sector in the NHS”.

What has changed since he made that comment?

Rosie Cooper Portrait Rosie Cooper
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The health service was not an issue at the general election, and why? Because people broadly supported it and were not worried about the state that it was in. Government Members must listen to the furore that will happen and prepare to defend their seats in light of the decisions that they take now.