Debates between Rosie Winterton and Ian Paisley during the 2019 Parliament

Wed 19th Jul 2023
Retail Crime
Commons Chamber
(Adjournment Debate)
Tue 7th Mar 2023
Public Order Bill
Commons Chamber

Consideration of Lords amendments
Mon 27th Jun 2022
Tue 26th Oct 2021
Mon 22nd Mar 2021

Northern Ireland

Debate between Rosie Winterton and Ian Paisley
Monday 26th February 2024

(3 months, 1 week ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley
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Minister, I congratulate you on your promotion, but I commiserate with you because you will be dealing more and more with me and my colleagues. We will test you to the nth degree—

Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Order. Obviously, the hon. Gentleman is not testing me.

Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley
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I apologise for my enthusiasm, Madam Deputy Speaker; we will test the Minister to the nth degree.

I want to make a point about whiskey, not because the hour is late but because it is an important point. A point was made about tariffs, and a certain whiskey company in my constituency was mentioned—I think it probably dreads being mentioned, because it just wants to get on with trade. Any tariffs of the sort that came into effect in 1801, imposed on Bushmills whiskey by the Acts of Union, were actually removed at a very important historical juncture for this nation. They were removed in 1879 during—guess what?—the great home rule debates, in order to calm things down. Maybe, just maybe, we need to learn that lesson from history, and remove these borders and the problems that have been put in place, in order to calm things down. If we learn that lesson from history, that whiskey company in my constituency—the premier whiskey constituency and whiskey company in the whole British Isles—will continue to do exceptionally well.

I should say for the record that not a single additional tariff has been placed on whiskey throughout the whole period of the protocol, so there is nothing to be removed. The history is incredibly interesting. Tariffs on Irish whiskey were brought in in the 1600s because it was the most successful product made on the entire island of Ireland. Then there was the introduction of what was called the whiskey tax, which became known as the Parliament tax of 1661. Only companies that paid the tax were registered, so the 1,200 whiskey distilleries across Ireland suddenly became 40. I am not saying the others ceased to exist; they just did the Irish thing of not paying their tax. That was a very important distinction.

Of course, the tax on Irish whiskey was brought in to protect the Scottish market. The fledgling whisky market developed about 40 or 50 years after the Irish whiskey market in the early 1400s. In order to protect the Scottish whisky market, the Parliament here decided to engage in protectionism of its Scottish market. I am glad that that was removed—it ought to have been—allowing the Northern Irish whiskey trade to continue to flourish, particularly given that it is a much better product and is spelled correctly.

I look forward to the Minister’s responses to the several questions that I have asked. I urge him to deliver action, not just big words.

Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Before I bring in the next speaker, I should say that I want to ensure that the Minister has at least 10 minutes to wind up. If the remaining speakers kept to about 10 minutes each, that would do the trick. I call Carla Lockhart.

Retail Crime

Debate between Rosie Winterton and Ian Paisley
Wednesday 19th July 2023

(10 months, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I think a point of order is the only way in which I can say this. I want to thank the Minister, because his was one of the most helpful responses I have ever received during an Adjournment debate. I just wanted to put that on the record.

Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his point of order. It was rather removed from the actual Standing Orders, but there we are; I am sure that the Minister appreciated the hon. Gentleman’s words.

Question put and agreed to.

Public Order Bill

Debate between Rosie Winterton and Ian Paisley
Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Order. It is important that interventions are short, and I know that the hon. Member for North Antrim (Ian Paisley) will want to come to the conclusion of his remarks now, as he has been speaking for 10 minutes.

Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley
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I will conclude now, Madam Deputy Speaker.

I agree with the point that the hon. Member has made. The arrest of Isabel Vaughan-Spruce was atrocious. It sends out a terrible message to women and to anyone who wishes to engage in silent prayer in this nation. I am glad that that attempt at a conviction was overturned by the court and thrown out. It is unfortunate that she has been arrested again today by another police officer saying, “What are you thinking? What are you praying?” That is wrong, and we need to stand up against that sort of harassment.

Northern Ireland Protocol Bill

Debate between Rosie Winterton and Ian Paisley
2nd reading
Monday 27th June 2022

(1 year, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I call Ian Paisley on a point of order, but I hope that this is not a way of disrupting the debate.

Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley
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Is it in order for the shadow Secretary of State to indicate that he has had negotiations with the Democratic Unionist party when no such negotiations have taken place, Madam Deputy Speaker?

Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his point of order. He knows that he is well able to ask to intervene again on the shadow Secretary of State. It undermines our debates if we come up with endless points of order that interrupt them. It is not a fair thing to do. The hon. Gentleman will try to catch my eye later; I suggest that we try to respect each other in the Chamber.

Northern Ireland (Ministers, Elections and Petitions of Concern) Bill

Debate between Rosie Winterton and Ian Paisley
Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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I thank the hon. Lady for that point of order. It is important that Members do not misquote other Members; that is very important indeed. The hon. Lady has made her point. I am sure that if the hon. Gentleman feels that he has misinterpreted her words, he will respond, or he may feel that the clarification that she has just given has put what she said on the record.

Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley
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Of course, this is not the first time that Social Democratic and Labour party Members have opposed the Belfast agreement and called for changes when it suits them. The previous Member for Foyle talked about the “ugly scaffolding” that surrounded the Belfast agreement—

Points of Order

Debate between Rosie Winterton and Ian Paisley
Monday 22nd March 2021

(3 years, 2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley (North Antrim) (DUP)
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I too gave notice that I would raise this point of order. I understand that the Northern Ireland Secretary will lay matters before this House to take upon himself powers to direct the Northern Ireland Department of Health and, indeed, the Assembly on the devolved and controversial matter of abortion. This will have grave implications for the “New Decade, New Approach” agreement and the devolution settlement. It would be unprecedented for a London Department to direct a devolved Northern Ireland Department. Has the Secretary of State indicated to the Chair that he intends to make a statement on this? How can we scrutinise this properly and hold this Government to account?

Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving notice of his point of order. I cannot speak for the business managers, and I am not aware of notification of a statement, but I am sure that Government Front Benchers will have heard what he has said about the desirability of notice of a debate on such matters.

Public Passenger Transport

Debate between Rosie Winterton and Ian Paisley
Tuesday 16th June 2020

(3 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Paisley Portrait Ian Paisley (North Antrim) (DUP)
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Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the best way for the Government to address those matters is urgently to introduce a national bus strategy, which would put in place a hydrogen technology programme that would allow the development of a new bus building programme that would be totally free of a carbon footprint?

Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Order. I am anxious that we stick to the substance of the regulations. Matt Rodda.