Climate Change: Housing Insurability, Mortgage Lending and Financial Resilience

Debate between Baroness Hayman and Lord Livermore

Monday 13th July 2026 Lords Chamber

[Lord Livermore (Lab)]

It is a great shame what my noble friend says about the Opposition; with such a significant issue as climate change and the importance of net zero, we want a cross-party consensus to drive forward the measures necessary in this country. He is absolutely right to say that economic growth is our number one mission, but without economic growth we cannot meet our climate change targets, and by investing in climate change measures we can drive greater levels of economic growth. If we step back from that, it would be a great shame and would do serious damage to our economy given that, as my noble friend says, the net-zero economy is growing so strongly.

[Baroness Hayman (CB)]

My Lords, the Minister is obviously correct that we really do need to step back from this divisive and completely unsubstantiated move away from the consensus on the need to do something about the changes in the climate we are seeing around us day in, day out.

What the Minister said about systemic risk to financial services and long-term risk was reassuring, but I wonder whether I could ask him to have a word with his noble friend, the noble Lord, Lord Stockwood, about the Financial Services and Markets Bill currently going through this House. There are grave concerns that the provisions we put in three years ago to a Bill that the Minister will remember are being watered down when they need to be strengthened.

[Lord Livermore (Lab)]

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her question. She is absolutely right in what she said about climate change. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change—the world’s foremost authority on climate change science—established in its sixth assessment report that climate change is real and is being driven by greenhouse gas emissions. It predicts that if the rate of warming is not limited to 1.5 degrees centigrade above pre-industrial levels, we risk severe and irreversible damage to our planet and our people. Of course, it will be good if we maintain a cross-party consensus on the measures necessary to tackle that.

I heard what the noble Baroness said about financial stability. She will know that the Bank of England’s December 2025 financial stability report set out the committee’s assessment of climate-related risk to UK financial stability: it is low relative to other countries in the shorter term.

Road Pricing

Debate between Baroness Hayman and Lord Livermore

Thursday 18th September 2025 Lords Chamber

[Lord Livermore (Lab)]

The noble Baroness asks a hypothetical question that I have already dealt with. The Government have no plans to introduce road pricing. She mentions low-traffic neighbourhoods. We want to support local authorities to deliver streets that work for all road users and enable integrated journeys. Decisions on which neighbourhoods should be low traffic lie with local authorities.

[Baroness Hayman (CB)]

My Lords, I urge the Minister to be not quite so adamant in his rejection of road pricing. My first job in government was as Minister for Roads. A year in, I was due to visit South Korea to look at road pricing and the opportunities that might occur in this country, but I was moved the day before I went. It was to be my first and only trip abroad as Minister for Roads, and I do not believe that anyone went after me. The arguments that have been made by the noble Lords, Lord Young of Cookham and Lord Birt, have become only more pressing in the years that have gone by, but the opportunities for making the system fairer have also increased because of the increase in technologies. I therefore urge the Minister to think a little more broadly on this issue.

[Lord Livermore (Lab)]

As I say, there is a great deal of expertise across the House on this matter, and the noble Baroness is no exception. She knows a great deal about the topic. I think I have said what I was going to say on this matter: we have no plans to introduce road pricing.