Debates between Baroness Vere of Norbiton and Lord Lee of Trafford during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Ex-Offenders: Training and Employment

Debate between Baroness Vere of Norbiton and Lord Lee of Trafford
Monday 5th November 2018

(5 years, 6 months ago)

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Lord Lee of Trafford Portrait Lord Lee of Trafford
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To ask Her Majesty’s Government what plans they have to provide greater training and employment opportunities for ex-offenders.

Baroness Vere of Norbiton Portrait Baroness Vere of Norbiton (Con)
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My Lords, our Education and Employment Strategy was published in May this year. Governors are being empowered to commission education provision that leads to work, and we are building better links between prisons and businesses to ensure that those who leave prison are ready for work. We have launched the New Futures Network to engage and persuade employers to take on ex-prisoners.

Lord Lee of Trafford Portrait Lord Lee of Trafford (LD)
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My Lords, I welcome these initiatives and acknowledge freely that David Gauke and Rory Stewart are much more enlightened and progressive than some of their predecessors. However, it is very depressing that, in a recent survey, only half of employers said that they would consider employing ex-offenders. I suggest that a senior and respected figure from the private sector—perhaps someone who has just retired—could be appointed to encourage more employers to take on ex-offenders, to work with them and chivvy them along. Surely this would make sense. Given that ex-offenders cost the country about £15 billion a year, would it not make sense to consider some kind of financial inducement to encourage employers?

Baroness Vere of Norbiton Portrait Baroness Vere of Norbiton
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My Lords, the good news is that half of employers might be interested in employing ex-offenders. Certainly, the noble Lord is completely right: we need to encourage people from the wider business community to encourage their colleagues to look to ex-offenders as potential employees. That is why the New Futures Network is appointing business ambassadors, who will do that for key sectors. For example, we have Timpson Group covering the retail sector—10% of Timpson’s employees are ex-offenders—and we have Landsec doing the same for construction and Mitie for agriculture and horticulture.

HMP Long Lartin

Debate between Baroness Vere of Norbiton and Lord Lee of Trafford
Thursday 12th October 2017

(6 years, 7 months ago)

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Baroness Vere of Norbiton Portrait Baroness Vere of Norbiton
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I thank my noble friend for that. I have been down to the other place and I can confirm that, because I was listening to the Prisons Minister when he said that we are still on course to build 10,000 modern and well-designed prison places, which we need to replace the old Victorian places that are, frankly, not fit for purpose any more. It is a long-term project and necessarily so, and we have committed £1.3 billion to make that transformation over the course of the Parliament.

Lord Lee of Trafford Portrait Lord Lee of Trafford (LD)
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My Lords, our prisons are a powder keg at present. Yesterday it was Long Lartin—where will it be next week? The Government do not seem to grasp the urgency of the situation. Could the Minister tell the House how many times the Tornado squads have been used this year?

Baroness Vere of Norbiton Portrait Baroness Vere of Norbiton
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My Lords, I reject the term “powder keg”—that is simply not the case. But violent incidents occur and I am very grateful that we have the Tornado teams. I do not have the stats in front of me but I shall write to the noble Lord with exact figures on how many times they have been deployed. However, I think we can all agree that they are a necessary feature of our security.