Children: Covert Human Intelligence Sources

Debate between Baroness Williams of Trafford and Lord Tebbit

Thursday 13th September 2018 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Williams of Trafford]

The noble Baroness asks a very pertinent question. This is not a comfortable or easy arrangement. She will know, of course, that it was brought in by the Labour Government in 2000. With the safeguards that are in place and the work that needs to be undertaken, all these things are taken into consideration.

[Lord Tebbit (Con)]

My Lords, would my noble friend agree that it is overwhelmingly in the interest of the child that he or she should grow up in a society in which crime is reduced? That is the purpose of the measures that are being undertaken.

[Baroness Williams of Trafford]

My noble friend puts it absolutely succinctly and correctly: the overall aim is that children should grow up in a society free of crime.

Terrorist Attacks

Debate between Baroness Williams of Trafford and Lord Tebbit

Thursday 22nd June 2017 Lords Chamber

[Lord Tebbit (Con)]

My Lords, I welcome most wholeheartedly what the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, said about the duty that falls on all of us to condemn all terrorists. I think today of course of my friends—Airey Neave, Ian Gow, Robert Bradford, Tony Berry—all Members of the other place and all murdered by the IRA. I hope the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, will have a quiet word in the ears of the leaders of his party who have such soft and comforting words for the IRA.

[Baroness Williams of Trafford]

My Lords, as we deal with extremism in all its forms, we look not just at Islamist extremism but at far-right extremism. My noble friend is absolutely right to point out that we cannot forget the events in our recent history that caused such damage in our communities, both here and in Ireland.