Greece

Debate between Lord Ashton of Hyde and Lord Stoddart of Swindon

Monday 29th June 2015 Lords Chamber

[Lord Ashton of Hyde]

My Lords, I have not checked the latest advice. I have been informed that it was updated last night and will be re-updated today. I think that is exactly what the advice said.

[Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Ind Lab)]

My Lords, are we not just kidding ourselves about the real situation? Does the noble Lord not agree that the eurozone is fundamentally flawed and has been so right from the beginning? The grown-ups among us recognised that when we opposed going into what was to be a flawed system. Is it not true that without the fiscal and social power, together with the monetary policy, the eurozone simply cannot work? The idea that it could work, particularly with the membership of Greece, was always absurd.

[Lord Ashton of Hyde]

My Lords, the Government do not believe that the eurozone is fundamentally flawed as long as its members have the right economic position when they go in and go in at the right exchange rate. The euro institutions’ power is adequate as long as the members go in at the right time and with the right criteria. I accept that there are different views on this, but the countries in the eurozone are varied. Greece may well leave—I do not know; it is up to the Greek people—but just because one country on the periphery leaves does not necessarily mean that the eurozone is fundamentally flawed.

EU Budget Surcharge

Debate between Lord Ashton of Hyde and Lord Stoddart of Swindon

Monday 10th November 2014 Lords Chamber

[Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Ind Lab)]

My Lords, is the Minister aware—it was these Benches’ turn.

[Lord Ashton of Hyde (Con)]

Actually, my Lords, we have had one question from each.