Debates between Lord Gardiner of Kimble and Lord Judge during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Wed 12th Sep 2018
Ivory Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 2nd sitting (Hansard): House of Lords

Ivory Bill

Debate between Lord Gardiner of Kimble and Lord Judge
Committee: 2nd sitting (Hansard): House of Lords
Wednesday 12th September 2018

(5 years, 7 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Gardiner of Kimble Portrait Lord Gardiner of Kimble
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I am grateful to my noble friend for permitting me to re-emphasise that the Government will consider not only what has happened during this debate but also the recommendations of the Constitution Committee. I cannot be fairer than that at this stage, as my noble friend should know.

Lord Judge Portrait Lord Judge
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My Lords, I am always willing to talk to the Minister, but the courteous way in which both Ministers have treated me during our discussions would make it extraordinary if I did not come straightaway when they were ready. However, the issue that has to be addressed is a simple one, which, unless something is done about it, will eventually lead me to invite the House at a later stage to consider its view. We cannot have a ministerial task force with these powers. That is what is not acceptable. Beyond putting that marker down for myself, I am willing to talk at any time, but for the purposes of today, I withdraw my opposition to Clause 17 standing part of the Bill.