Debates between Lord McFall of Alcluith and Lord Truscott during the 2019 Parliament

House of Lords: Size

Debate between Lord McFall of Alcluith and Lord Truscott
Thursday 28th January 2021

(3 years, 3 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord McFall of Alcluith Portrait Lord McFall of Alcluith [V]
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My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his question. It is a follow-up to the Question that he asked me on 23 June last year, and I promised to take that issue to the Procedure Committee. Both that committee and the Burns committee are very exercised by this issue, but the matter rests with legislation and with the Government. I will refer his Question again to the Procedure Committee, but in the meantime it might be helpful for him to talk to the Burns committee itself.

Lord Truscott Portrait Lord Truscott (Ind Lab) [V]
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Surely a painless way to reduce the size of your Lordships’ House would be to abolish hereditary by-elections, as proposed in the admirable Bill from by the noble Lord, Lord Grocott. Does the Senior Deputy Speaker see this as a possible way forward?

Lord McFall of Alcluith Portrait Lord McFall of Alcluith [V]
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Under the Life Peerages Act, Her Majesty has the power to confer a peerage for life, and that peerage entitles the holder

“to receive writs of summons to attend the House of Lords and sit and vote therein accordingly”.

The committee of the House does not have any say over that issue. So, in terms of the hereditary Peers’ by-elections, the Procedure Committee met earlier this week and we have deferred the by-elections for a further period. Information on that will be forthcoming soon for the entire House.

House of Lords: Size

Debate between Lord McFall of Alcluith and Lord Truscott
Tuesday 23rd June 2020

(3 years, 10 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord McFall of Alcluith Portrait The Senior Deputy Speaker [V]
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That is a matter for the Procedure Committee. I made reference to our possibly undermining the Act of Parliament. However, I will refer the noble Lord’s question to the Procedure Committee when we meet.

Lord Truscott Portrait Lord Truscott (Ind Lab) [V]
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My Lords, is it not the case that the Bill from the noble Lord, Lord Grocott, which would abolish hereditary by-elections, would help to achieve a gradual reduction in the size of the House? I understand that this is a matter for the usual channels, but will the House authorities try to ensure that there is sufficient time to debate and pass this important Bill—perhaps third time lucky?

Lord McFall of Alcluith Portrait The Senior Deputy Speaker [V]
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The noble Lord, Lord Grocott, has a question, and I presume that will add to what the noble Lord, Lord Truscott, has said. Again, the Burns report was set to ensure that we achieved change without legislation. That is a difficult issue, but the Procedure Committee will be looking at it and other issues.