Debates between Lord Murray of Blidworth and Lord Balfe during the 2019 Parliament

Illegal Migration Bill

Debate between Lord Murray of Blidworth and Lord Balfe
Wednesday 8th March 2023

(1 year, 2 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Murray of Blidworth Portrait Lord Murray of Blidworth (Con)
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I thank the noble Baroness and I entirely accept her correction. She is quite right about the figure of 100 million: it is displaced persons. On her second point, I am afraid I do not accept that it would be appropriate to exclude everyone under 18 from the operation of the scheme, and it is obvious why that should be: sadly, such an exception would generate very great abuse.

Lord Balfe Portrait Lord Balfe (Con)
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My Lords, this is certainly not an ideal Bill, but the problem it seeks to address has been around for a long time. In my view, it lost us the referendum, which was a big tragedy.

Lord Balfe Portrait Lord Balfe (Con)
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It won the noble Lord the referendum, but it lost me the referendum. The key point surely is that we live in a democracy. The people are demanding action in this area loud and clear, and it is our duty as a Government to deliver what the public want. The public want the boats stopped, so I hope that we can have a discussion on the basis of making the Bill work, not wrecking it.

Lord Murray of Blidworth Portrait Lord Murray of Blidworth (Con)
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I entirely agree with my noble friend.