(14 years, 6 months ago)
Lords Chamber Lord McNally
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord McNally 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, I am on my feet, so noble Lords have to sit down. As we have 12 minutes, I suggest that we go to my noble friend Lord Willis, then to my noble friend Lord Ryder and then to the noble Lord, Lord Richard.
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            Lord McNally 
        
    
        
    
        I may get it wrong but I am trying to help the House, with 12 minutes to go.