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NHS: Hospital Overcrowding

Lord Vinson Excerpts
Tuesday 15th March 2016

(8 years, 1 month ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Vinson Portrait Lord Vinson (Con)
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My Lords—

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Lord Prior of Brampton Portrait Lord Prior of Brampton
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My Lords, I will not refer to the better care fund, but I agree with the noble Baroness that flow through a hospital is essential. Blockages at the end of the flow can cause problems further down the line in A&E departments. I entirely agree with the noble Baroness’s analysis, but it is more complex than just looking at social care. Two-thirds of the delayed transfers of care are caused internally within the NHS, compared with only one-third by social care, but the noble Baroness makes a very strong point.

Lord Vinson Portrait Lord Vinson
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My Lords, is it not a fact that net immigration into this country is running at over 200,000 people a year, and possibly rising? Surely this has a huge bearing on the ability of the National Health Service to meet demand. That factor should be taken into consideration.

Lord Prior of Brampton Portrait Lord Prior of Brampton
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My Lords, the demand on the health service is rising for many reasons, of which the growing population is clearly one. However, without the extraordinary contribution made to the NHS by people who have emigrated here from other countries, we would not have an NHS at all.