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Department: Department of Health and Social Care

National Institute for Health and Care Excellence

Baroness Brinton Excerpts
Monday 13th July 2015

(8 years, 10 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Prior of Brampton Portrait Lord Prior of Brampton
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I am not entirely convinced by the argument about regulation when it comes to managing wards. My own observation is that when you have strong leadership from strong ward sisters, ward managers or charge nurses, many of the problems that we identify seem to disappear and there is very high staff morale, low absenteeism and little use of agency staffing. So much comes down to local leadership, and sometimes regulation is used as a scapegoat.

Baroness Brinton Portrait Baroness Brinton (LD)
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My Lords, given that everyone accepts that the new safer staffing guidelines will require more nurses, what will the Government and Health Education England do to reduce the number of nurses who do not qualify from their training, which is currently running at about 20%?

Lord Prior of Brampton Portrait Lord Prior of Brampton
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That is a very high figure. It is quite revealing that most of the people drop out in their first placement, and it behoves universities and Health Education England to ensure that they are recruiting new nurses who have done some work in a care home or hospital so that they know what the realities and practicalities of being a nurse are.