All 2 Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall contributions to the Public Order Act 2023

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Mon 30th Jan 2023
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Monday 30th January 2023

(1 year, 3 months ago)

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Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall Portrait The Deputy Speaker (Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall) (Lab)
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My Lords, in view of the fact that Amendment 1 has been agreed, for the convenience of the House, I remind the House that I shall not subsequently be able to call Amendments 5, 14 or 24, by reason of pre-emption.

Clause 1: Offence of locking on

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Lord Sharpe of Epsom Portrait Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
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My Lords, we are debating stop and search. I am not quite sure where strip and search came into this, I am sorry.

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall Portrait Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall (Lab)
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With respect to the Minister, that was not an entirely adequate answer. He was probably quite clear on what the noble Lord, Lord Baker, was asking him.

That said, the Minister has relied very heavily in what he has said to the House this afternoon on existing protocols that the police are expected to use. We have just been told through the Casey report, using very recent evidence, that those protocols are substantially ignored by the police. Does he have an answer for that?

Lord Sharpe of Epsom Portrait Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
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I apologise if I misunderstood my noble friend. I was basing my answer on the fact that a report was published yesterday by the Children’s Commissioner that specifically related to young people and strip search. If I misunderstood, I apologise. With regard to stop and search, I would argue that all the criteria for establishing the cordon and the area and so on would mean that the circumstances described by my noble friend would be highly unlikely.

With regard to the Casey report, as I have already said, both the Government and the Met police are taking it very seriously. These are rules that we expect to be followed.