All 2 Debates between Charles Walker and Paul Beresford

Private Members’ Bills

Debate between Charles Walker and Paul Beresford
Monday 2nd September 2013

(10 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Charles Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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I agree with the hon. Gentleman. I know that the Leader of the House is positively chomping at the bit to find time for the report to be debated, because he is a great reformer and is entirely reform-minded. Indeed, I feel that I am presenting these reforms today with his support, which is extremely exciting and very welcome.

Paul Beresford Portrait Sir Paul Beresford (Mole Valley) (Con)
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Before any chomping starts, does my hon. Friend agree that although most private Members’ Bills are Government sponsored, as he mentioned, that is the choice of the private Member?

Charles Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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My hon. Friend makes a fantastic point, but if private Members felt that they had a genuine chance of getting their own legislation on to the statute book or that the Government would at least give it a proper hearing, we might begin to redress the balance.

Paul Beresford Portrait Sir Paul Beresford
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indicated dissent.

Charles Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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My hon. Friend is shaking his head; I think we shall have to disagree on this.

Code of Conduct

Debate between Charles Walker and Paul Beresford
Monday 12th March 2012

(12 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Charles Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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My hon. Friend is leading me into territory into which I should not stray in this debate.

Paul Beresford Portrait Sir Paul Beresford (Mole Valley) (Con)
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May we think about a recent case that the Committee considered? A Member might have had a private meeting, perhaps with another family member who was a businessman, and in which there was a discussion about funding and payment. During that meeting, the Member might have utilised his position as a Member, and that might have become public knowledge, although the meeting was private. I am sympathetic to where my hon. Friend wants to go, but I am bothered that we have not looked at this issue properly and I would like him to consider putting his point but—as the Committee Chairman, the right hon. Member for Rother Valley (Mr Barron), said—then allowing us to look at it carefully later, to ensure that we do not err.

Charles Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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I will take that into consideration, and I acknowledge the spirit in which the point has been made.

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Charles Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention.

I appreciate that the Committee and the commissioner are at pains to point out that it is not their intention to create a “red top” charter. I accept that that may not be their intention, but the fact remains that real reputational threat to this place is contained in this flawed proposal.

Paul Beresford Portrait Sir Paul Beresford
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My hon. Friend said he wanted an example. I did give him one, but he has not responded to it. It is a financial, not a lurid, example, and I would like him to consider it.

Charles Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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The example given was fraud, and it was also extraordinarily tortuous.

The Leader of the House, whom I do not often pray in aid of my arguments—as he knows—has been here for 40 years and he cannot think of anything in that time that would have required this power to have been exercised. We in this place are brilliant at inventing new misdemeanours and crimes as sticks with which to beat ourselves.