Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill Debate

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Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill

David Simpson Excerpts
Monday 20th May 2013

(10 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Jim Shannon Portrait Jim Shannon
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right; we need this protection, and it must be enshrined in legislation by this House to ensure that it means something. We cannot just depend on an interpretation that some people might have.

The Secretary of State continued:

“This would only happen if the discussion or criticism took place in an inappropriate manner or in a context which resulted in discrimination against, or a detriment to, a particular pupil or group of pupils.”

She said that the same is true of discussion or criticism of same-sex relationships generally, and concluded:

“Nothing in the Bill affects people’s ability to hold and express their belief that marriage should be between a man and a woman.”

However, this assurance fails sufficiently to protect freedom of expression, as my hon. Friend suggested.

David Simpson Portrait David Simpson (Upper Bann) (DUP)
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Perhaps we should go further. For example, is there protection of freedom of speech for preachers who fundamentally believe that the scriptures teach that such things are wrong?

Jim Shannon Portrait Jim Shannon
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My hon. Friend is right: we desperately need that protection.

Other questions are likely to arise, such as whether the expression of a view on the superiority of opposite-sex marriage to same-sex marriage will be regarded as resulting in detriment to a particular group of people—namely, those who are homosexual or who are raised in families in which the parents are in a same-sex marriage. The answer is quite possibly yes. There is therefore likely to be a chilling effect on freedom of speech in particular contexts. The case of Smith has already shown a marked move in that direction. He was, as the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Mr Leigh) said, deemed to have discriminated against same-sex couples after he wrote a comment on his Facebook wall. Surely hon. Members do not intend there to be such a chilling effect on freedom of speech.

One of the ways in which this can best be addressed is by putting the Secretary of State’s reassurances in the Bill.