All 2 Debates between George Howarth and Richard Shepherd

Fixed-term Parliaments Bill

Debate between George Howarth and Richard Shepherd
Wednesday 13th July 2011

(12 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Richard Shepherd Portrait Mr Shepherd
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I am obliged for the courteous and pleasant way in which that was said. Mirror, mirror on the wall, I know that I am—[Laughter.]

George Howarth Portrait Mr George Howarth (Knowsley) (Lab)
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I apologise for missing the beginning of the hon. Gentleman’s speech. I wonder whether I may risk leading him astray. How does he think a fixed five-year term for this House stands alongside the proposals for a 15-year term for some peers in the other place?

Fixed-term Parliaments Bill

Debate between George Howarth and Richard Shepherd
Monday 13th September 2010

(13 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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George Howarth Portrait Mr Howarth
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It is always difficult to speculate about what would have happened at a given time if the vote had gone in a different direction. I know for a fact that the then Prime Minister, Tony Blair, had taken the view—it is now a matter of record—that he would have had to stand down as Prime Minister. That would have changed the leadership of the Executive and the political leadership of the country. How that would have affected the imminence or otherwise of a general election is impossible to judge, because the arithmetic of Parliament would have stayed the same. I am not sure whether the hon. Gentleman meant that to be a helpful intervention for the Government, but I do not think it serves that purpose at all.

Richard Shepherd Portrait Mr Shepherd
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It is inconceivable and against our traditions that a Prime Minister who proposes a war with the support of his Cabinet is defeated and does not depart the scene. There would have to be a general election. That is our tradition, that is the convention, and that was our constitution.