Debates between Gillian Keegan and Mick Whitley during the 2019 Parliament

Higher Education Reform

Debate between Gillian Keegan and Mick Whitley
Monday 17th July 2023

(9 months, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Gillian Keegan Portrait Gillian Keegan
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My hon. Friend makes a very good point. Lots of people are surprised by how much they can earn in some of those trades, whether welding, bricklaying or plumbing. There have been, and there will always be, fabulous apprenticeships and full-time courses to make sure everyone can reach those careers.

Mick Whitley Portrait Mick Whitley (Birkenhead) (Lab)
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The most important factor in determining graduate outcomes remains the student’s socioeconomic background. The average student from a working-class background goes on to earn less after graduating than their wealthier peers with the same degree. Does the Minister concede that the Government’s insistence on degrading the value of degrees and restricting access to higher education will only compound those deep structural inequalities that define our education system? Does the Minister accept that many young people in my constituency will consider those plans an attempt to put them back in their place and out of university?

Gillian Keegan Portrait Gillian Keegan
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I was in exactly the same place as the people in his constituency—in fact, in the same city—so I do not accept that at all. We are upgrading the options for people from working-class backgrounds and upgrading the quality of degrees. I would not be here if I had not had the options I had, which included an apprenticeship, FE college and a part-time degree at Liverpool John Moores University. That was high quality. Everybody who puts their trust in the system should get the same.