Debates between Kevin Brennan and Jo Swinson during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Early Parliamentary General Election

Debate between Kevin Brennan and Jo Swinson
Monday 28th October 2019

(4 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Jo Swinson Portrait Jo Swinson
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I will make some progress and then give way.

We believe that the best way to do this is to put a specific Brexit deal to the public for a final say in a people’s vote. We have been leading the campaign for a people’s vote for three and a half years. We stood in the 2017 election on a manifesto that argued for a people’s vote and we have laid amendments for a people’s vote 17 times in this House, including an amendment to the Queen’s Speech last week.

The official Opposition have refused to back wholeheartedly a people’s vote—in fact, 19 Labour MPs voted for the Prime Minister’s deal last week. When it comes to the cause of remaining in the EU and of stopping Brexit, the Labour party has not delivered. We have put our best efforts in, but so far the House has not yet backed them in sufficient numbers.

Kevin Brennan Portrait Kevin Brennan
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Not all the hon. Lady’s MPs have always been so unequivocal on this: the hon. Member for Streatham (Chuka Umunna) voted in favour of article 50, although he never tells the House that. I voted against it.

Why does the hon. Lady believe that a general election, using an electoral system that her party, like me, has always thought does not deliver a fair result, will solve this issue, rather than sticking to the point that we should be seeking a referendum? She could end up delivering a hard Brexit on only 38% of the vote, not 51%.

Jo Swinson Portrait Jo Swinson
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I always welcome any converts to the cause of electoral reform.

Kevin Brennan Portrait Kevin Brennan
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I’m not a convert!

Jo Swinson Portrait Jo Swinson
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Or indeed long-standing supporters.

We are looking for the best way to protect our constituents and our place in the European Union. But MPs should not kid themselves that, by hanging on, there is somehow going to be a different outcome.