Debates between Lord Cromwell and Lord Deben during the 2024 Parliament

Thu 5th Feb 2026

Crime and Policing Bill

Debate between Lord Cromwell and Lord Deben
Lord Deben Portrait Lord Deben (Con)
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On the personal attack, Mr Polanski is the leader of a party. If he cannot be referred to in this House, I wonder what on earth we are coming to.

Lord Cromwell Portrait Lord Cromwell (CB)
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I will follow the strictures just put on us to stay with the amendment. I say to the noble Lord, Lord Deben, as he still came back for another bite, that as someone who sat on the Industry and Regulators Committee that looked into the water industry in detail, I know that the Victorian system reached its capacity in 1960, and public and private ownership both failed in different ways for the simple reason that he gave: short-termism. That is the problem we face: the multiple billions that have to be spent over a long period, and no Government looking to get re-elected for the next five years will ever spend it.