Civil Service: Permanent Secretaries Debate

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Civil Service: Permanent Secretaries

Lord Jenkin of Roding Excerpts
Thursday 13th December 2012

(11 years, 5 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Jenkin of Roding Portrait Lord Jenkin of Roding
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My Lords, when I was Secretary of State for Industry, I was faced with a retiring Permanent Secretary. I found the names produced for me by the authorities unacceptable but I had hugely admired a senior civil servant from another department. I arranged that he should be appointed. He was one of the most successful Permanent Secretaries in the Department of Industry. A Minister’s involvement in this is absolutely essential.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire Portrait Lord Wallace of Saltaire
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My Lords, the relationship between a Minister and his or her Permanent Secretary is clearly key to the effective working of government. Some Members of this House will be old enough to remember the relationship between Dame Evelyn Sharp and Richard Crossman which was famously bitterly hostile. We do not want to go back to that sort of hostile arrangement again.