Devolution (Scotland Referendum) Debate

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Department: Leader of the House

Devolution (Scotland Referendum)

Michael Connarty Excerpts
Tuesday 14th October 2014

(9 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Hague of Richmond Portrait Mr Hague
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I need to emphasise this point. It is no longer fair or just for Scotland to be able to decide its own laws in devolved areas, only for Scottish MPs to cast decisive votes on similar matters that affect only England, or only England and Wales.

Michael Connarty Portrait Michael Connarty (Linlithgow and East Falkirk) (Lab)
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Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Hague of Richmond Portrait Mr Hague
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I will give way again in a moment; I am trying to give way a lot.

We must establish the principle that when this House makes decisions affecting only the people of England, or only the people of England and Wales, those decisions should be made only by, or with the consent of, the MPs elected to represent them. There will be considerable debate on how to do this. Many reports have been published and solutions proposed, but this issue must be confronted now.

Michael Connarty Portrait Michael Connarty
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Before the right hon. Gentleman moved on to that structural point, he mentioned the question of legislation. Some Members in the Chamber will leave at 2 o’clock to go back to the Modern Slavery Public Bill Committee, including myself and a Member from Northern Ireland. The right hon. Gentleman will know that I have been involved in that campaign long before this Government came in. Would it be right for Members from Scotland and Northern Ireland to be denied the right to sit on what is a piece of English legislation that will have worldwide repercussions if it is passed in its correct form?

Lord Hague of Richmond Portrait Mr Hague
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I believe that where a matter only affects England, then key decisions should be made, one way or another, by those MPs elected for English constituencies. The hon. Gentleman believes that for Scotland decisions on such matters should be made by Scottish representatives. We are not asking for anything greater than that. This is not a question that can be ignored or prevaricated over for the next decade. It is right we should address it now without establishing additional layers of government and without increasing the cost of politics.