Debates between Nigel Evans and Barry Gardiner during the 2019 Parliament

Wed 13th Sep 2023
Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill
Commons Chamber

Consideration of Lords messageConsideration of Lords Message
Mon 30th Jan 2023
Strikes (Minimum Service Levels) Bill
Commons Chamber

Committee stage: Committee of the whole House
Mon 17th Oct 2022
Energy Prices Bill
Commons Chamber

Committee stage: Committee of the whole House

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

Debate between Nigel Evans and Barry Gardiner
Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans)
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I call Barry Gardiner.

Barry Gardiner Portrait Barry Gardiner (Brent North) (Lab)
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In the interest of moving to the vote, I will not speak.

Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker
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In which case we come to the Minister, with the leave of the House.

Strikes (Minimum Service Levels) Bill

Debate between Nigel Evans and Barry Gardiner
Barry Gardiner Portrait Barry Gardiner
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My right hon. Friend is being extremely generous in giving way. Does she accept that the only way a union can avoid the situation she has just talked about, where unfair dismissal protection is taken away from workers, is by ensuring that they become an instrument of coercion, of the state and of the employer? For 35 years in this country, legislation has provided that a trade union is prohibited by law from disciplining or expelling a member who refuses to take part in a strike. Under the Bill, the same trade union may be required to discipline or expel a member who does what their workmates and they themselves may have voted for—namely, to withdraw their labour. Jonathan Swift could not have made this up. Nothing in all Lilliput or Brobdingnag could come up with a more ludicrous situation.

Nigel Evans Portrait The First Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means (Mr Nigel Evans)
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Interventions, by their nature, should be short, not lengthy.

Strikes (Minimum Service Levels) Bill

Debate between Nigel Evans and Barry Gardiner
Barry Gardiner Portrait Barry Gardiner
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That is quite simply because they are introducing a party political measure that is designed to provoke this House.

I call on all Conservative Members, if they care about the Union at all, to vote against this wrecking ball of a Bill, which will only provide succour to those voices seeking to destroy our constitutional settlement and our United Kingdom. Under the Bill, the employer has the unilateral right to identify in a work notice the individual workers required to operate the MSL. A worker who refuses to comply after having been requisitioned in this way will lose unfair dismissal protection.

The Government are thus authorising employers to do what not even a court in this country can do. Under the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992:

“No court shall…compel an employee to do any work or attend at any place for the doing of any work.”

However, once the union is notified of the identity of the workers to be requisitioned, the Bill requires the union to take “reasonable steps” to ensure that all its members identified in the work notice comply with it. It is ironic that, under the Bill, the same trade union may be required to discipline or expel—

Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans)
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Order. I am terribly sorry that I had not given notice, but we are going down to three minutes to get as many people in as we possibly can.

Energy Prices Bill

Debate between Nigel Evans and Barry Gardiner
Barry Gardiner Portrait Barry Gardiner
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On a point of order, Mr Evans. Will you confirm that when a Minister, or indeed, any Member of Parliament, refers by name to another Member, it is courtesy and normal practice to allow them to respond to the point that was made? Indeed, in this case, the Minister talked about me doing more, as a Minister in the Labour Government, on ensuring that we had insulation. However, he seems to forget that in 2013, his Government cut that by 92%—

Nigel Evans Portrait The Second Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means (Mr Nigel Evans)
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Order. The hon. Gentleman is doing an intervention now. Is the Minister giving way?

Covid-19: Dental Services

Debate between Nigel Evans and Barry Gardiner
Thursday 14th January 2021

(3 years, 3 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Barry Gardiner Portrait Barry Gardiner (Brent North) (Lab) [V]
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The Book of Proverbs says:

“Confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble is like a broken tooth.”

We are in a time of trouble and there are lots of broken teeth. While I make no aspersions about the fidelity of the Prime Minister, I can tell him that confidence in his Government, even before covid, was already at an all-time low with the dentists I speak to in Brent. There has been a total lack of investment in dental laboratories, a failure to recruit and train dental technicians, flawed dental contracts and chronic underfunding.

My hon. Friend the Member for Putney (Fleur Anderson) has lucidly set out the key demands of the British Dental Association: abandon the activity targets; support practices to increase the number of patients they can see safely; prioritise access to the vaccine; safeguard the supplies of PPE; and extend the business rates holidays to dentists. I will not rehearse and repeat her excellent arguments; I want to give voice to the frustration felt by the dentists who continue to serve my constituents in Brent so well.

The BDA has catalogued the failure to properly communicate with the public, but what I had not appreciated until I spoke with my local dental committee is just how poor the Government’s communication with dentists themselves had been. I quote from their letters. One said that

“dental services have often been treated as an afterthought with no understanding of the NHS contract imposed on the profession. Dental practitioners found out in May on the news, at the same time as patients that they were to reopen in June…The panic and frustration this caused is deplorable. Dental practices, despite being high risk because of the aerosol generating procedures, were not able to access PPE from the Government portal until September and the vital FFP3 masks were not added to that until November. It is clear that little thought, if any, had been given to dentists and their teams.”

One dentist wrote:

“When on the 8th June our high street practices in England were allowed to resume face-to-face care, the reality of what a new normal might look like hit…fallow time means the number of patients able to be seen is significantly reduced. It was anything but ‘business as usual’. I ask myself, at this time, what would be the worst thing to impose on dental practices? Very high up on my list would be precisely what the government has decided to impose—targets. The emphasis on targets from the NHS clearly prioritises a metric and finance over patient interest. To achieve targets, footfall would have to increase and non-urgent patients be prioritised.”

My local dental committee tells me:

“Many practices are already finding the conflicting strain too much, and this comes on top of the emotional and physical drain of wearing full PPE for hours every day…The imposition of a target at this time serves no purpose whatsoever other than to destabilise, perhaps terminally, NHS dental provision, and to demoralise an already exhausted profession further.”

Covid-19 has been felt most severely by those who were already more likely to have poor health outcomes—

Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans)
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Order. Sorry, Barry; we are going to have to leave it there because we have run out of time. I will call James Wild next, and then hopefully we will get Scott Mann back on the line.