All 1 Debates between Stephen Pound and James Paice

Wild Animals (Circuses)

Debate between Stephen Pound and James Paice
Thursday 23rd June 2011

(12 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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James Paice Portrait Mr Paice
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I am coming to that exact point.

If the House were to approve the motion, the Government would have to respect that, but as a Minister I am duty bound to lay before it the possible consequences—I stress the word “possible”—of that decision not only for the Government, but for the House, taxpayers and possibly the animals that we are concerned about.

Stephen Pound Portrait Stephen Pound (Ealing North) (Lab)
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Will the Minister give way?

James Paice Portrait Mr Paice
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No I will not; the hon. Gentleman was not here for much of the debate.

The legal advice we have received on section 12 of the 2006 Act is that although it could be used as the basis for a total ban, it is highly likely that we would be challenged on the basis that an outright ban was a disproportionate measure for improving welfare in circuses. That is exactly the same advice as the previous Government received in the Radford report, which they commissioned after the discussions in 2006. The report makes it absolutely clear that there was insufficient evidence to ensure that the animals’ welfare could be improved only by a ban and not by other means. That was the Radford report’s advice, and it remains the legal advice.