Debates between Tommy Sheppard and Stewart Malcolm McDonald during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Strengthening the Union

Debate between Tommy Sheppard and Stewart Malcolm McDonald
Monday 23rd July 2018

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Tommy Sheppard Portrait Tommy Sheppard
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The result was 45:55. When the referendum campaign started, the split on the question had been about 75:25, so during the period of a two-year campaign, three quarters of a million people decided to vote for Scotland to become an independent country who did not feel that way when the campaign started. That was really quite a remarkable achievement.

Since the referendum campaign people have suggested that SNP Members do not accept the result of the 2014 referendum. I said in my maiden speech, and I say again today, that I do respect the result of the 2014 referendum. The people of Scotland decided to remain in the United Kingdom at that time. But, as I said in my speech in the claim of right debate, sovereignty is not just for 18 September 2014. Sovereignty, if we believe in it—the claim of right, if we believe in it—has to be for all time, so in a democracy people have the right to change their minds.

Stewart Malcolm McDonald Portrait Stewart Malcolm McDonald
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Like my hon. Friend, I accept the referendum result, but is not the point that the minority have rights too? The Union can survive only if those who believe in it are really going to make the argument for it, for as long as they want it to live. Does it not ill become those same people then to scream in the face of yes voters, “You lost—get back in your box”?

Tommy Sheppard Portrait Tommy Sheppard
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It does indeed.

Democracy must allow people to exercise their right to revisit a decision if the options that were presented to them beforehand substantially change.