Debates between Victoria Prentis and Lord Grayling during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Tue 8th Jan 2019

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Debate between Victoria Prentis and Lord Grayling
Tuesday 8th January 2019

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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There is a complete lack of understanding of business models on the Opposition Benches. Opposition Members should understand that when they go on holiday next summer there is a fair chance they will be flying with an airline that owns no planes. The reality is that transport operators do not always own their own assets; they contract or charter them in and they operate the service. I do not think that Opposition Members understand that. As to the crewing of the ships, that is a matter for the company itself.

Victoria Prentis Portrait Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)
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Will the Secretary of State confirm to me that it is normal to award contracts, in a small part, to new operators and that while perhaps 90% of operators used by the Department are established, it is perfectly normal for the Department properly—acting legally as part of its procurement process—to include new operators as part of the consideration?

Lord Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right; that is normal, and we do not actually do enough of it. The Government are frequently criticised for contracting only with big business and not with small business. Ironically, now we are contracting with small business for a small part of a package we need, we are getting criticised for it, so we cannot win either way.