Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Department for Work and Pensions

Oral Answers to Questions

Yvonne Fovargue Excerpts
Monday 26th January 2015

(9 years, 3 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Iain Duncan Smith Portrait Mr Duncan Smith
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That is the point. Opposition Members do not like it very much, but let us follow that theme for a minute. The Leader of the Opposition extolled the virtues of the alternative to the long-term economic plan—the French plan, which was no economic plan as far as I understand it. We have now seen French unemployment go through the roof, employment rates fall and economic activity stagnate. London is now something like the sixth or seventh-largest French city because so many French people are coming to the UK because—we welcome them—they like to look for jobs.

Yvonne Fovargue Portrait Yvonne Fovargue (Makerfield) (Lab)
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12. What recent estimate he has made of the number of people whose housing benefit has been reduced as a result of the social sector size criteria.

Jack Dromey Portrait Jack Dromey (Birmingham, Erdington) (Lab)
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17. What recent estimate he has made of the number of people whose housing benefit has been reduced as a result of the social sector size criteria.

Iain Duncan Smith Portrait The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Mr Iain Duncan Smith)
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The latest published figures for August 2014 showed that the number of people affected by the removal of the spare room subsidy has fallen by 75,000. This follows a general downward trend, bringing the number of those affected down from 547,000 in May 2013 to 472,000.

Yvonne Fovargue Portrait Yvonne Fovargue
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In the Wigan borough, 3,386 people have had their housing benefit reduced due to the bedroom tax. Wigan & Leigh Housing estimates that it will take over seven years to re-house those who wish to downsize. Many of those affected have contacted me because, despite working, they are struggling to pay bills and feed their family. What is the Secretary of State’s estimate of the average income of those subject to the bedroom tax?

Iain Duncan Smith Portrait Mr Duncan Smith
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In previous speeches and today, the hon. Lady has talked about the fact that there are just not enough properties in her constituency to enable people to downsize. In fact, I understand that there are 2,700 people subject to the under-occupancy spare room subsidy, but something like 15,000 one and two-bedroom houses in the social sector properties in Wigan. There are many houses—many more than she might have laid out.

My point to the hon. Lady and the Opposition is that, in their opposition, they need to explain how they will afford it. The policy is saving some £500 million a year. It has already saved £830 million to date. They have no plans for substituting that, which means that their economic record is in tatters. After all, Labour, when in power, was the party that introduced that very policy for those in social sector private rented tenancies.