Pension Schemes Bill

Baroness Altmann Excerpts

Consideration of Commons amendments and / or reasons
Tuesday 28th April 2026 Lords Chamber

[Viscount Thurso (LD)]

My Lords, I rise for the last time in your Lordships’ House to congratulate the Minister, to thank her for all the hard work that she has done and to say how much I have appreciated my interaction with her. We have arrived at a perfect compromise in that none of us is entirely satisfied—which has always been the definition of a great compromise. We are in a place where the major concerns that many of us had on the mandate part of this Bill have been, if not removed, modified to the point at which they are liveable with. As the Minister said, it is this House at its best.

When I came into this House in 1995, if your Lordships had said to me, “The last time that you speak will be on the fourth ping-pong of a Pension Schemes Bill”, I would have said, “On your bike—not a chance”. However, I have enjoyed the work of being part of this Bill, and I think that both the Government and the Opposition have done their job well. I hope that when this goes on to the statute book, it will deliver for pensioners.

[Baroness Altmann (Non-Afl)]

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Viscount, Lord Thurso. I pay tribute to him. He will be much missed by this House. His work on this Bill and in many other areas has been most welcome and helpful and his demeanour and the manner in which he has co-operated with us and with Ministers has been appreciated by everybody. I declare my interests as far as pensions are concerned. I am an adviser to a master trust and a non-executive director of a pensions administration company.

I will not delay the House too long, but I want to welcome the changes that have been made. I thank the Minister for her patience, her engagement and for listening and working with this House. We have now achieved much safer and better outcomes for members of pension schemes. These will allow trustees and managers to look after the best interests of members so that they do not feel forced to invest in ways that they might not otherwise have chosen to or which are against their best judgment.

There will not be an exclusion of listed investment companies. Again, I thank the Minister and the Government for listening to the serious concerns that were expressed by this House. I also welcome the changes that we have made along the way to the Bill. It is a much better Bill. I thank all colleagues across the House who have co-operated so well.

I must pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Bowles, for all the work that she has put in, and the Front Bench on this side as well, who have worked so hard to make this Bill a better Bill. I wish this Bill well. Hopefully, a lot of pension scheme members will enjoy better retirements in the future—I certainly hope so—as a result of what we are doing now.

[Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted (LD)]

My Lords, I am pleased to have reached this stage, where we are now all back on the same side. We have had some exchanges when we have said, once upon a time, that we were all pointing in the same direction, and then we had a little bit of slippage away from that, but now we are back together. I am still no fan of mandation, but we have now got it suitably under control, if I can put it that way. There are reasonable guardrails to make sure that it does not go wrong, that we, I hope, never use it and that we get the additional investments that we all agree in principle are needed.

I thank all noble Lords who have worked on the Bill, because the work, the meetings and so forth have been harmonious. A lot of late-night working, and some early this morning, has resulted in the solutions that we now have. Like others, I thank everyone and hope we can see the rewards that come from the passage of this Bill.