Debates between Baroness Fookes and Baroness Masham of Ilton during the 2019 Parliament

Tue 18th Jan 2022
Health and Care Bill
Lords Chamber

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Health and Social Care Leadership Review

Debate between Baroness Fookes and Baroness Masham of Ilton
Thursday 9th June 2022

(1 year, 11 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Masham of Ilton Portrait Baroness Masham of Ilton (CB) [V]
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My Lords, I congratulate the Government for instigating this—

Baroness Fookes Portrait The Deputy Speaker (Baroness Fookes) (Con)
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My Lords, we appear to have had a break in service, but I think we now have the noble Baroness.

Baroness Masham of Ilton Portrait Baroness Masham of Ilton (CB)
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It is tragic that so many babies and mothers have died when they should have been safe in hospital. What happened to the standards of care which were required? Fresh young enthusiastic people joining the NHS and those in care should be safe from bullying, harassment and discrimination. If something goes wrong with patients’ treatment and care, should there not be a duty of candour, with openness and honesty? Surely this should be incorporated in leadership education. I hope that it will be.

Health and Care Bill

Debate between Baroness Fookes and Baroness Masham of Ilton
Baroness Fookes Portrait The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Baroness Fookes) (Con)
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The noble Baroness, Lady Masham, is now able to speak and I invite her to do so.

Baroness Masham of Ilton Portrait Baroness Masham of Ilton (CB) [V]
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My Lords, I am pleased to see that the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, is taking part today. He has been involved in a family emergency, which shows how important grandparents are in the care of children.

I have added my name to some of the amendments in this group but support them all. The Bill will be improved if the patient voice is included in both the integrated care boards and integrated care partnerships by Healthwatch, which could collect data from different sources representing patients. There should be co-operation and working together throughout the NHS, co-operation with the CQC and better integration throughout so that standards are kept high across the country.

The recent report, chaired by the noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege, First Do No Harm, also demonstrates how important the patient’s voice is. As Healthwatch is spread so thinly at the moment across England, it will have to be bolstered so that it can do the job. The Bill should set clearer expectations for local systems on the need to use the views and experiences of their local communities to inform decisions. The aim is to establish Healthwatch as an independent body rather than a sub-committee of the CQC. The voice of patients will provide so much first-hand experience, and public involvement is so important to help improve standards throughout the country.

Patients can highlight good experiences and services that need improving. Often, communication needs improving, as does hospital food, which differs across the health service, waiting times, late diagnosis, ambulance provision and many other concerns. Many patients want to give something back to the health service when they have had to use it. Being a dedicated member of Healthwatch could be a solution. I hope the Government will appreciate the benefit of the public working with them rather than against them.