All 30 Debates between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon

Wed 11th Nov 2026
Health Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee stage: Part 1
Mon 9th Nov 2026
Health Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee stage
Tue 3rd Nov 2026
Health Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee stage part one
Tue 20th Oct 2026
Wed 1st Jul 2026
Mon 18th May 2026

Health Bill

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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My Lords, I am most grateful to noble Lords for their contributions. Indeed, we all share a determination to ensure that patients receive safe, timely care in the right place. I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Howe, for his brevity; I will also seek to focus on amendments, and I hope noble Lords will appreciate that the reason for that is so we can deal with the content of the Bill.

Amendment 50 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Coffey, raises the important issue of rural access to ambulance services. I confirm that ICBs already have a statutory duty to meet the needs of their local population and to have regard to the need to reduce health inequalities, with respect to both ability to access health services and outcomes. I can assure your Lordships’ Committee that the funding that ICBs receive for commissioning ambulance services is based on factors such as age and deprivation and is adjusted to reduce health inequalities. To the point on rural areas, this includes adjustments for longer emergency ambulance journeys. We have heard some statistics, but I confirm that the category 2 mean ambulance response time is, as of July of this year, three minutes and 35 seconds faster than in July 2024. That is not the end of the story; I am simply indicating progress that is being made. I recognise, as always, the challenge of the situation that we are dealing with.

On Amendment 229, tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, I certainly share her determination to reduce long waits in A&E. Trusts are already expected year on year to improve four-hour performance and to reduce waits of 12 hours or more from arrival. There is no complacency about what we have to do to improve performance, which is why the Secretary of State recently announced £140 million of investment in urgent and emergency care schemes across England, including urgent treatment centres, same-day emergency care, emergency department upgrades and additional ambulance capacity.

We are also taking action across the urgent and emergency care pathway to reduce excessive waits and to improve patient safety and flow through hospitals, which the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, spoke to. I assure your Lordships’ Committee that this will continue following the abolition of NHS England. It is our view that a legal time limit in itself would not address the underlying pressures on capacity and patient flow that contribute to long waits, and establishing a new statutory scheme would risk distracting from the crucial work that is already under way.

On Amendment 219, also tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, I could not agree more that corridor care must not—not even should not, but must not—be normalised. I am reiterating some of the points that I made in a recent Oral Question, which I believe was from the noble Baroness, on this very important point. Our priority is sustained action to address the causes by improving patient flow and discharge, expanding urgent care capacity and supporting the most challenged hospitals. We have introduced a consistent national definition and reporting arrangements, and we have improved transparency and enabled support to be focused where it is most needed.

The Secretary of State has also asked NHS England to bring forward urgent plans aimed at eliminating corridor care for children. I can say that one in six trusts consistently reported no corridor care across their emergency departments or the wider hospital over the summer. I particularly make the point about the summer because of the extreme pressure due to the weather—not something we usually say, but we are increasingly seeing it. The pressures were immense, and that was their report to us.

The noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, made the strongest case for exactly what we are doing with the neighbourhood health service, which is about moving the focus from hospital to community. I spoke earlier this week in the Chamber about the movement of savings accruing from timely discharge that can be directed to neighbourhood health. We are trialling that, because it is a very clear and practical way to make the move that the noble Baroness rightly identifies.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, may I tease something out that the Minister was saying about corridor care? She quickly moved on to another thing, and I wanted to come back in.

Yes, this is similar to a discussion we had only last week or the week before in answer to a Question I had tabled, but two-thirds of medics working in emergency departments are saying that their trusts are not accurately reporting the data on corridor care. The Minister keeps saying that we have this new definition or whatever; it was decades ago that I worked in the NHS, but we had a way to make sure that people were not counted as being on a trolley: you took the wheels off and it became a bed. Trusts are very creative at finding ways around to meet their definitions. If two-thirds of those surveyed by the Royal College of Emergency Medicine are reporting that their trusts are not accurately calculating this, what are the Government doing to try to get under the data, to make sure that the Minister and the department are getting accurate data to be able to deal with this serious problem?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I feel quite sure that the noble Baroness herself never did such a thing.

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Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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No, obviously not, but trusts do that.

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I take very seriously the point that the noble Baroness made. I am sure it is already being looked into, but I will personally make sure that that is the case.

On corridor care and children, one example of the practical action taken is our recent announcement that the NHS is rolling out a standardised system to spot when a child’s health is deteriorating, so that early warning signs are caught earlier and there is faster action. The paediatric early warning system will be introduced in all emergency departments by the end of 2027-28, with an ambition to also roll this out in ambulance and community settings in the future. This is broader than just corridor care, but I know that that is a particular concern, as I said, when it comes to children. I cannot confirm often enough that we remain committed to fully eliminating corridor care before the end of this Parliament.

Finally, on Amendment 72, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Patel of Bradford, I can give the reassurance that there is no national policy supporting blanket minimum waits. Indeed, patient safety always comes first. If a commissioner puts capacity measures in place, urgent referrals must be excluded, minimum waits must not be set above 18 weeks and providers must continue to triage patients according to clinical priority.

At the start of the year, it is important and expected that commissioners plan to balance service delivery with their yearly budgets while prioritising patient safety and clinical need. I remind your Lordships’ House that it is due to our approach to financial planning that the NHS stayed in line with its budget in 2025-26 while also cutting waiting lists by over 250,000 between July 2024 and August 2026. Removing the use of tools to support planning could drive unplanned activity and overspending, which would of course undesirably divert resources from other patients.

On the points made by the noble Lord, Lord Patel, about autism and ADHD assessment, expectations have already been set out for ICBs and providers to reduce those long waits and to improve experience, quality and productivity in ADHD services over the next three years. We are moving to a needs-led support model that means earlier access to information and support and appropriate interventions that are individually based, without and before a diagnosis.

On the question about ICBs imposing minimum waits and whether we will publish which ICBs are doing this, there are no plans to publish this information. The data is held locally and that is right, because these are decisions for local areas. To restate what I said before, commissioning decisions are for ICBs to make.

Neighbourhood Health Services

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 10th November 2026

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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It is true that general practice is a cornerstone of neighbourhood health. I am glad that people will now find it easier to access their doctor and have more choice in how and when they book appointments. With reference to digital access, I believe that will greatly help in accessibility to GPs, but we are improving capacity. We are employing more GPs; there are now 2,800 more fully qualified full-time equivalent GPs employed compared with July 2024. That is the highest number since 2015. We have also made changes to the GP contract so that PCNs and practices can hire more GPs and introduced a practice-level GP scheme. We are focusing our efforts on the more under-doctored areas that my noble friend describes.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, we cannot expect neighbourhood health services to succeed without ensuring that resources shift from hospitals into the community, so can the Minister set out how much additional NHS funding will be directed towards primary and community care, and how this will be monitored?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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My Lords, joined-up care requires changes to funding flows in order that we can shift our resources. That is where the focus will be. I am glad that from next year we will be trialling for neighbourhoods and places payment mechanisms which mean that savings from reduced unplanned hospital care can go into increased investment in community services. That will not only provide extra funding in terms of neighbourhood health but drive change, which is what we are seeking. In addition, we announced in the Budget 250 neighbourhood health centres, with 120 delivered by 2030, and the first wave of 27 sites comes with a commitment of £50 million.

Health Bill

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I will need to check on the first point that the noble Baroness asked me about—the supply of information—but I will gladly write to her once I have looked at it. I absolutely agree with the point that she makes about data being one thing, but it is only as good as the use you can put it to. We seek to collect the right data for the right purpose; in other words, to improve outcomes.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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I thank noble Lords for the quality of the debate on this group. I particularly thank the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie, for sharing such a personal story earlier.

I am glad to hear that the Government are committed to improving cancer outcomes, but I still have questions. Given that it was in the 2022 Act, and part of that Bill, where is the annual mandate that was set out for NHS England going to sit now? Perhaps the Minister can write to noble Lords setting out how that will not be lost, just to assure us. It is not just noble Lords here who are concerned; the sector and charities are very concerned that it will be lost. It was in a Bill before, so let us try to understand why the Government do not think it is needed now. But given the response we have had and the debate, I beg leave to withdraw my amendment.

Health: Women and Pain

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 9th November 2026

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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My noble friend’s observations are quite right. We have already updated NICE guidance and introduced courses in order to strengthen professional education across a range of conditions. We have introduced targeted initiatives, including the Getting It Right First Time chronic pain workstream. Our introduction of Jess’s rule and Martha’s rule will mean that women can challenge when symptoms persist or they feel that they are not being listened to. We are developing a new multiprofessional capability framework for women’s healthcare in community settings, and that will address a pattern of women’s symptoms being dismissed or normalised.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, the Government’s women’s health strategy pledges to eliminate the diagnostic issues for women with endometriosis. In the light of Emma Barnett’s recent BBC documentary and Endometriosis UK’s finding that women wait an average of nine years and four months for a diagnosis, will the Minister support the charity’s call for diagnosis times to be reduced to one year or less by 2030, and commit to publishing national data to track progress?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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Women are waiting far too long, which is the reason for the renewal of the women’s health strategy. We have, through the National Institute for Health and Care Research, commissioned a number of studies which are very much focused on the points that the noble Baroness is raising, which are endometriosis diagnosis, treatment and, importantly, experience. We have committed over £4.3 million for new research projects, including a trial to evaluate the effectiveness of pain management programmes, and the noble Baroness will be aware of our commitment for waiting times to be reduced in order that patients, including those with endometriosis, can know exactly what to expect.

Health Bill

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, I am grateful for the support for this group of amendments from noble Lords across the Committee. If the health service is to be truly patient-centred, patient choice needs to be a key part of this. Different patients will have different needs. Therefore, choice is a key part in having ownership of their care and treatment.

My Amendment 23 in this group picks up a key issue as we move to greater use of digital health. The NHS app will start to play a greater role. My amendment picks up the potential loophole that if a patient is seen in person, they may be referred for treatment or diagnostics by their GP or other primary care practitioner and given a choice of where to go for their referral. However, if this is done virtually, via an app or online, patients may not have the same choice that they would have received in person. This amendment seeks to ensure that there are no closed lists and that patients are referred to one provider only. Amendment 24 is similar in its aims.

Amendment 67 in my name, Amendment 22 in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, the noble Earl, Lord Howe, and the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe, and Amendment 68 in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, and the noble Earl, Lord Howe, are similar. My amendment specifically pushes for patient choice for non-consultant-led community services, including optometry-led glaucoma care and community urgent eye care services. The amendment seeks meaningful choice from providers available in an ICB area for out-of-hospital services. We know that waiting lists have increased for community services, yet these are often preventive services. I have raised in this Chamber before that 600,000 people are on hospital waiting lists for eye care services, yet we have optometrists on every high street who could be used to help address this and bring routine treatment nearer to people’s homes, thus leaving specialists able to deal with patients who need their services in a more timely manner.

Audiology, as we have heard, is another really important area. As the noble Earl, Lord Howe, highlighted, NHS community audiology services are commissioned across the whole of an ICB area in just 42% of ICBs. This means that the majority of patients are being denied choice. Often, patients are required to attend hospital-based services and experience long waits for services which could be offered safely and in a more timely manner in the community. This could be nearer to home or to a family member’s home—somebody who helps them get to an appointment and helps them with transport—giving them genuine choice. If we are serious, as we debate the Bill, about shifting care out of hospitals and into the community then patients must be given the same right to choose their provider for community services as they currently have for consultant-led hospital care.

Community waiting lists have now reached record levels, with around 1.25 million people waiting for treatment. Patients should be empowered with clear information on waiting times and location, allowing them to choose the provider that best meets their needs. By placing choice in the hands of patients rather than commissioners, which it too often is, we can improve access to timely treatments and actually deliver on the Government’s ambition of more personalised care closer to home. I look forward to the Minister’s response.

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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My Lords, I will address the wider principles underpinning Clause 5 and Amendments 22, 23, 24, 67 and 68. I am grateful to noble Lords for their contributions and consideration of matters that are key to patient choice—a concept that is, as I know noble Lords are aware, neither new nor innovative but is absolutely at the core of the Bill.

Clause 5 introduces new duties to require the Secretary of State to promote the involvement of patients, their carers and their representatives in decisions relating to the prevention or diagnosis of illness, care or treatment. This applies where the Secretary of State exercises her health functions. As I said, this is absolutely core to the Bill and I am sure that noble Lords will welcome that.

The clause also requires the Secretary of State to act with a view to enabling patients to make choices about the health services provided to them. I hope that noble Lords are aware that the Government are committed to involving patients and carers in decisions about their care, as we discussed in the last group. One of the reasons is that we know it supports better experiences of care and in many cases leads to a better outcome. It is not just a “nice to have”, but a “necessary to have”.

I refer the noble Baronesses, Lady Manzoor and Lady Coffey, and the noble Earl, Lord Howe, to the new Choice Charter, which will strengthen this approach by setting out—this is key—what patients can expect so that they can make informed decisions about their health and care. There is no point in just expressing a wish to have patient choice if we are not equipping patients to make that choice. That is why we are protecting the patient’s right to choice and the duty to involve them in decisions. As I said, that will remain a central principle of the health system. I was glad to hear noble Lords across the Chamber welcoming the move from hospital to community provision. As the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, set out, many services can be provided better in the community than they can in hospital. I welcome that support.

Amendments 22, 23, 24, 67 and 68 have been tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, and the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon. These amendments would go further than Clause 5 currently does by expanding patients’ right to choice to a wider range of out-of-hospital services and onward referrals by virtual and integrated health services, and by prescribing how this must operate in practice. I reconfirm our commitment to strengthening patient choice as part of our wider agenda to improve access to care and reduce waiting times. It might be helpful to remind your Lordships’ House—the noble Earl, Lord Howe, might be particularly interested in this—that existing choice rights already apply to some consultant-led out-of-hospital services where the regulatory conditions are met. These include dermatology, pain management services, gastroenterology and diabetes services.

The noble Lord, Lord Patel of Bradford, made a number of key points. Community services are by their very nature designed differently from hospital services. I assure him that those who need help to exercise their choice will get it around what their needs are. They will not simply be expected to manage with one size fits all. The points that have been made are fair and I take them on board but, as a point of principle, we do not think that this level of operational detail, important though it is, is appropriate for primary legislation. Our preference is to use secondary legislation to set out the services covered by choice rights and the detailed requirements for offering choice. The key thing is that that will allow that framework to be updated as services, evidence and system capability develop, because we are not going to be stuck in one place and healthcare will develop as we go along. I say to the noble Lord, Lord Patel of Bradford, that we will continue to look at the scope of the choice rights and ensure that we are provide the most effective offer to patients.

I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Coffey, and the noble Earl, Lord Howe, that we are taking the practical actions they seek, as set out in the elective reform plan. We are empowering people to take control of their health by making the NHS App and the “Manage Your Referral” website the default route for patients to choose their provider. To enable patients to make an informed choice, we are improving the information available to them, following the point I made earlier, including on waiting times. The noble Lord, Lord Patel, was right to say that not everybody can use online access. We completely understand that, and I emphasise that online tools are in addition to traditional channels. We will ensure that people who need help to make a choice receive that support and information in the way that suits them, as raised by the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon.

On the point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe—this might also be helpful to other noble Lords—patients will continue to be able to choose any provider that holds a contract to deliver NHS services. As I said in my letter to the noble Baroness, that includes independent sector providers, within set circumstances. It is the responsibility of ICBs to ensure that their processes comply with the right to choose. That includes any qualifying contract requirements, clinical appropriateness and eligibility criteria. There is guidance for the use and implementation of indicative activity plans and activity management plans. That is detailed in the NHS standard contract technical guidance. If the noble Baroness would like more information, I will be happy to ensure that it is there.

The noble Baroness, Lady Manzoor, talked about the need for real choice to be strengthened. The government guidance on choice makes it clear that GPs, dentists and optometrists have clear duties to ensure that patients are offered a choice of where they go to their first out-patient appointment. I totally agree with her that a right is only as good as the information and confidence that you have. That is why we are taking these steps.

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Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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Before the Minister sits down, she mentioned that the Government are minded to use secondary legislation rather than amendments to the Bill. Are the Government minded to include the non-consultant community services we have been discussing in the Chamber today in such secondary legislation, for genuine patient choice?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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Secondary legislation will ensure patient choice across all NHS services, so that will be included.

National Brain Cancer Lead

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 3rd November 2026

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I know how much the Prime Minister appreciated his meeting with Archie. Indeed, the Prime Minister has acknowledged that enough progress has not been made in this area and committed, as my noble friend said, to a number of actions. I certainly would agree with my noble friend’s view on the importance of clinical trials. I can say to my noble friend that, as we set out in the national cancer plan, we are committed to ensuring that the UK supports new clinical trials for brain cancer and boosting participation in research. Both of these really need to be pushed forward, and we are fast-tracking clinical trial set-up times to 150 days to ensure that more patients can access innovative treatments in our country.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, I pay tribute to the swimmer, Archie Goodburn, for his courage in campaigning for people affected by brain cancer. I welcome the Government’s commitment to commission an expert review. Will they ensure that it will set out clear, time-bound recommendations, with named bodies responsible for delivery in this area, and that progress against them is published?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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We are keen to be open about this. The immediate expert review, which will take just three months, will be led by Professor Anthony Chalmers. It will examine progress since the 2018 brain tumour research report. I look forward to that review being published within three months. A national action plan, which I am sure will refer to the points that the noble Baroness made, will then help us to move discoveries from the laboratory into treatments and clinical care much more quickly. That is where we need to be.

LED Lighting: Health Effects

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Wednesday 28th October 2026

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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The DfT is undertaking independent research and is approaching this with regulatory changes and through international safety standards. The noble Lord raised the question of why glare is a problem. The Which? report on this, published only yesterday, talked not just about brighter LED but the height of vehicles and beam alignment. The DfT has just this week updated driver advice in the Highway Code on this very point, encouraging people to get it checked.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, the Advertising Standards Authority upheld a complaint in June about an LED face mask that claimed it was clinically proven it could reduce wrinkles in four weeks.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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Exactly. Given there are numerous adverts for at-home LED beauty devices in the run-up to Christmas, will the Government urgently assess whether existing regulation adequately protects consumers in terms of product safety and the evidence supporting claims about health benefits?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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This is ongoing work. If it was a true claim, I am sure that many noble Lords would have been very keen to benefit—me included.

Fracture Liaison Services: National Coverage

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 27th October 2026

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I agree with the noble Baroness that that is one of the most important functions, because of course prevention and recovery are also key. As I have mentioned, ICBs are focused on providing services closer to home. Also, we are working with NHS England so that we can improve frailty services in acute settings as a priority, including through same-day emergency care and through comprehensive geriatric assessments.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, what assessment have the Government made of the workforce and funding required to deliver national coverage? Will those requirements be reflected in the delivery plan?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I refer the noble Baroness to the forthcoming 10-year workforce plan, which will make sure that the NHS has the staff that it needs, including in frailty services. Fracture liaison services deploy multidisciplinary teams to ensure prompt diagnosis and appropriate treatment. We have made available, through the Department for Education, loans for living costs to support students from the lowest income families to make sure that they can train and be part of the workforce. That is one area where we are developing recruitment and training.

Corridor Care

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 20th October 2026

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Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon
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To ask His Majesty’s Government what progress they have made on their commitment to end corridor care.

Baroness Merron Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Health and Social Care (Baroness Merron) (Lab)
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My Lords, corridor care is unacceptable, and we are tackling its causes by preventing avoidable admissions, improving patient flow and accelerating safe discharge. Just this weekend, we announced almost £140 million for 14 urgent care schemes, alongside 25 new or expanded sites, which are due to open for winter. Despite unprecedented summer demand, around 50 trusts reduced corridor care. We are working to end corridor care by the end of this Parliament.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, the Royal College of Emergency Medicine has reported today that two-thirds of clinical leads say their trust does not count as corridor care patients on chairs in corridors, patients who have been put on chairs in waiting rooms or even patients in corridors on the way in. What action will the Government take, and by when, to make sure that every trust counts every patient, so that we have a true picture of corridor care in this country?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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We are a lot closer to having a true picture, because in March this year we introduced a consistent national definition of corridor care, which I know the noble Baroness has been very keen on. In addition, for the first time monthly national data has been published since June, which is giving us greater visibility of where corridor care is occurring and, in particular, allowing support to be targeted at the most challenged hospitals.

Fracture Liaison Services

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 13th October 2026

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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The commitment remains the same, as the noble Lord will have seen most recently outlined in the women’s health strategy. We are taking a whole-pathway approach of fracture prevention, improving access to diagnosis, adopting effective treatments and encouraging local systems to develop services to identify those at the highest rate of fracture. The noble Lord knows that I cannot offer an implementation plan exactly as he would like—I thank him for his strength of feeling on this—but I hope this shows the progress we will continue to make.

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My Lords, if fracture liaison services can prevent further fractures and help people remain independent, what assessment have the Government made of whether rollout could be accelerated, and what would need to happen to achieve full coverage before 2030?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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The 10-year health plan also highlights community-based models of fracture prevention services, which will be very much at the core of neighbourhood health services; that is one of the key changes we are making. It is important to emphasise, as I have done before at this Dispatch Box, that decisions are rightly made at a local level, that that is how local populations are best served and that that will continue.

Neighbourhood Health and Social Care

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 15th September 2026

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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The noble Baroness is quite right to talk about people having more complex needs, and, indeed, we are also living longer. However, the current health system is organised around institutions and services that are complex, disjointed and difficult to navigate, as she said. On housing, for example, I know that the health and well-being boards, which are the key to this, can design themselves to bring in services. I can think of a number which have already done that and included people from housing in the way that she describes. It is absolutely encouraged and health and well-being boards across the country are already doing that.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, a recent workforce assessment by Skills for Care found that adult social care in England still had around 96,000 vacancies and projected that a further 410,000 posts will be needed by 2040 to meet demand. What are the Government doing to address these shortages and deliver genuine integrated patient services?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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We recognise the continuing challenge that we inherited in terms of workforce, but that is why we are investing in the adult social care workforce. In 2028, the first ever fair pay agreement will come in, which will be backed by £500 million of funding. It will improve pay and conditions for the workforce, which is crucial. We are also implementing the first ever universal career structure for the adult social care workforce, as well as investing up to £10 million this year in the learning and development support scheme. This, along with all the other changes, will make a massive difference to the workforce in terms of retention, recruitment and development.

Integrated Care Boards: Access to Services

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 8th September 2026

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Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon
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To ask His Majesty’s Government what assessment they have made of access to primary and community health services by integrated care boards.

Baroness Merron Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Health and Social Care (Baroness Merron) (Lab)
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My Lords, access to primary care is improving. The year June 2025 to June 2026 saw nearly 14 million more GP appointments compared with the same period in the previous year, and satisfaction when contacting a GP increased by over 14% compared with July 2024. For the first time, we have introduced a waiting time standard for community health services, and 37.6 million NHS dental treatment courses were delivered in 2025-26, which is 6.2% higher than in 2024-25.

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My Lords, more than 600,000 people are waiting for hospital eye appointments, yet on our high streets there are optometrists who can provide urgent and minor eye care services, ensuring faster, more convenient access for patients. Will the Government require all ICBs to commission these basic community health services?

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The requirement on ICBs now is to focus on the strategic commissioning of health services and to be responsible for all but the most specialised services. Looking particularly at improvement of access to eye care, which is extremely important, the Government recently announced some £20 million to improve digital connectivity between primary care, optometry and secondary eye care. In all these ways, people will be far better served in their eye care.

Neighbourhood Health Services

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 7th September 2026

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The noble Baroness set out exactly what the plan is, and I am grateful to her for doing so, but I emphasise that the whole point of the independent national evaluation is that it will evaluate the whole breadth of neighbourhood health. It started in April and will run for three years. I further emphasise that it is about continual engagement and developing different ways that neighbourhood health can be successful. It will also model what the long-term outcomes and improvements can be, depending on how you do it. All that will mean working with the local ICBs to see about their progress, but they are well aware of the expectations upon them, and they will set their own ways forward.

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My Lords, if neighbourhood health services are to succeed, more care will be delivered through general practice and community settings, yet NHS funding allocated to general practice has fallen over the last decade. Will the Government consider introducing a primary care investment standard to ensure primary care can grow in line with this ambition?

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We do not intend to bring forward the investment standard that the noble Baroness seeks. I am aware that a discussion is going on—probably as we speak—through the Health Bill, which is about to be introduced to your Lordships’ House. That is about increasing accountability and responsiveness to local needs and improving outcomes. I say to the noble Baroness that our fear is that bringing in yet another approach, through an investment standard, risks undermining that.

Childbirth-related Post-traumatic Stress Disorder

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Wednesday 2nd September 2026

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While I cannot give the specifics here and now, I will be pleased to get that information to the noble Baroness. She is right to highlight the need to make sure that all women have access and that all women who have PTSD or experience of birth trauma are identified. Record numbers of women are now accessing specialist perinatal mental health services—66,500 women last year in England alone. The figures I can get the noble Baroness will, however, give a much better flavour of how we are reaching groups who may well be marginalised in the way that she describes.

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My Lords, given that six out of 10 maternity units have been assessed as unsafe by the Care Quality Commission, it is not surprising that this research identifies thousands of women experiencing birth trauma. Will the Government now guarantee one-to-one midwifery care during labour and a consultant on every maternity ward 24/7 to support women giving birth?

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Safety is key, and so are the experiences of women and their families. The noble Baroness and the House will be well aware of the national maternity and neonatal plan, which will drive proper, sustained improvement across the system. This is what I believe we have been lacking for years, and it is why we asked the noble Baroness, Lady Amos, to conduct an independent review. She has reported on that and the maternity and neonatal plan will be announced by the end of this year. I certainly look forward to that; it is being worked on as we speak, involving both clinicians and those with lived experience, as well as campaigning organisations and all those with an interest. I am feeling positive about how we move forward, and the point made by the noble Baroness about staffing and ratios will of course be part of that.

Healthcare Sector: Clinicians

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Wednesday 22nd July 2026

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That is exactly the reason why we need to encourage innovation and take advantage of all the improvements now available to us, including AI. It is by modernising our approach that we will move forward greatly. That is why we are building the practicalities, as I described in my Answer just now, as well as a culture of innovation. We are also providing the ability to see adoption, because people are rightly concerned if time is spent on innovation but the product or service never comes forward. We are changing a number of points to improve that.

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My Lords, in a growing number of hospitals, clinicians are using at-home bladder cancer testing to reduce the number of cystoscopies and speed up diagnosis. Can the Minister expand on how the Government will help clinician-led innovations such as this to spread across the NHS, so that access does not depend on where a patient lives?

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Yes, I am very pleased to do that. I point to the National Healthtech Access Programme, which is exactly what the noble Baroness is seeking. It is a route for cost-effective and clinically effective technologies, such as the one the noble Baroness describes, so that we can see the best benefit to patients and the best value, and that supports more equitable access. NICE is currently assessing three projects, including using AI in histopathology for the diagnosis of prostate cancer and breast cancer, to give two examples, and we will shortly see the publication of those results.

People with Learning Disabilities: Acute Illness

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 20th July 2026

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My Lords, specialist training in the care of people with a learning disability is critical to reducing avoidable mortality. Will the Government fund dedicated senior clinician roles in learning disability medicine across community, acute and mental health settings to provide the leadership that is necessary to improve healthcare outcomes for this population?

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There are a number of aspects to that area. We have greatly increased the mandatory training requirement and the numbers who have been trained. The noble Baroness also points to the importance of a multidisciplinary approach. We have seen an increase in nursing staff in that regard. It is a matter for the local provider to decide, but the workforce plan, which we will be seeing soon, will be very helpful in this regard.

National Maternity and Neonatal Investigation

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 6th July 2026

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My Lords, this is another week and another traumatic and difficult-to-read report about the state of maternity services. Behind it are thousands and thousands of women and families deeply affected by these service failures. I thank them all for their contributions to this report, as well as the noble Baroness, Lady Amos.

Women are not being listened to, heard or believed, with serious consequences for safety and quality of care. Racism and discrimination are embedded throughout the maternity and neonatal system. Services are not responsive to the changing profile of women giving birth and the increase in medical interventions during birth. Antenatal, birth and labour, neonatal and postnatal services are just not joined up. From Somerset to Blackpool, the safety of having a baby has become a lottery. Women are silenced and staff who raise the alarm on unsafe care or systemic discrimination are crushed by a culture of fear. We need to see genuine accountability throughout the NHS and the investment necessary to make Britain the safest country in the world to have a baby.

I have a number of questions for the Minister. I welcome the Government’s commitment to a national maternity commissioner, but can the Minister confirm that this post will go to an independent expert and not a political appointee? Will the Minister reassure us that action will be taken before December, rather than waiting for the taskforce to report on its plans? Will the Government guarantee safe staffing at all hours in every maternity ward in the country, so that no woman has to give birth in an unsafe unit?

This inquiry has, once again, raised the issue of poor bereavement support across the NHS after pregnancy or baby loss. The national bereavement care pathway seeks to resolve this by ensuring high-quality and consistent bereavement care across the UK. The trauma of baby death and pregnancy loss can last a lifetime. Parents’ memories of the care they receive at that moment will stay with them for ever. Good bereavement care can help parents and families navigate their bereavement journey, while poor care can just add to the trauma of loss.

The first moments after a baby dies can be the only opportunity parents have to make memories with their baby, and there is only once chance to get this right. After a baby dies, parents often face really tough decisions, and they cannot make informed decisions about their baby without clear and compassionate communication from healthcare professionals. I therefore ask: will the Government roll out all five national bereavement care pathways, including for miscarriage, and actively monitor implementation across the health system? Will they ensure that suitable bereavement rooms are available in all trusts, not as a “nice to have” but as part of dignified trauma-informed care? This would be a step change for so many families.

There is so much more I could say on a topic that has shocked us all. All families, wherever they live and whatever their ethnicity, must be supported to have their babies safely. This has clearly not been the case for too many years. This is the point where things must change, and I really look forward to the Minister’s response.

Baroness Merron Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Health and Social Care (Baroness Merron) (Lab)
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My Lords, we know—and we can never acknowledge it enough—that women, babies and families across the country are being harmed, traumatised and let down by a broken system. I am grateful to both Front Benches for the way in which they have received this report and for their support, and their acknowledgement of the role we have taken in government.

The noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, talked about trauma lasting a lifetime, and that is indeed the case. When I have met women and families who have been affected, that is what has stuck with me: the trauma never goes away. I also accept the correct challenge from the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, that the judgment will be on what has changed, not on what is written. We are very conscious of that, and I am grateful to him for reminding me of it.

Before turning to the helpful questions from the noble Baroness and the noble Lord, I will make a few comments. I too want to express my gratitude to every woman, family member and member of staff who came forward to give evidence to the noble Baroness, Lady Amos, and her team, who heard from thousands of people who showed great courage and determination to share their experiences, painful though they were, and conducted their investigation with immense sensitivity and care. The noble Baroness, Lady Amos, diligently brought together evidence from families, staff, 12 local investigations and all the past reviews, and her review shows systemic, repeated failures by our maternity and neonatal system. It has also given us the opportunity and determination to break that cycle.

As I know your Lordships’ House will agree, it is also important that we acknowledge the very positive role that so many staff and families have played in providing the necessary care.

It was most helpful that some of our immediate actions were acknowledged. But, on top of those immediate actions, some of which have been mentioned today, we have ongoing actions. We have been tackling avoidable brain injuries and maternal deaths through dedicated programmes and packages. We have already begun the expansion of Martha’s rule to all maternity and neonatal units, to give families and patients the right to request a second opinion where there are concerns.

Among other things, we have also introduced a perinatal culture and leadership programme, which is important to develop a safety culture and a learning and support culture for the leadership across all units, and an early warning system to better identify safety concerns. Importantly, because continuity of care is something that has been highlighted a lot, we are providing £10 million of recurrent funding to ICBs for this very purpose, in particular to provide midwifery continuity of care for those women who live in the most deprived neighbourhoods and who are at risk of poor outcomes.

I will do my best to answer the questions asked by noble Lords. The noble Lord, Lord Kamall, asked about the timeline for Leeds and Sussex. Donna Ockenden, who will be chairing those reviews, is currently engaging with the families on terms of reference, which will include timelines. We will not be waiting for the publication of the findings to make changes. As they emerge, those issues will be shared with us, so that we can act.

In answer to the question from the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, the new maternity triage standards will be implemented by June 2027. There must be clear board oversight in place of the operation of the triage system, including regular reviews of waiting times and actions to improve the necessary services. The role and remit of the maternity commission is being urgently considered by the National Maternity and Neonatal Taskforce. The commissioner will co-chair the taskforce, which will drive all the change as well as setting it out.

On workforce pressures, we are not waiting. There is £10.6 million investment funding in an additional 1,000 temporary roles to help newly qualified midwives to join the NHS, which is extremely important. So, we are not waiting for the 10-year workforce plan. However, the taskforce will take into consideration wider work, including the 10-year workforce plan.

With regard to concerns raised by Bill Kirkup about what is referred to as “normal birth ideology”, women have to be able to make the right decision about what is safest and best for them. No woman should ever feel pushed into a particular type of care. The words “normal” and “natural” are perhaps not particularly helpful in this setting. We are talking about vaginal births; what matters is what is best and what is safest, and I am certainly very grateful to Bill Kirkup for all this work.

The noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, asked further questions about the commissioner, which were helpful. The selection and appointment process will be considered as part of the process of establishing the role.

Questions were asked on action being taken before December, when the report of the taskforce will be available. As I mentioned, immediate actions are already being driven forward. These actions were already under way over the last two years and as part of the immediate response to the recommendations of the noble Baroness, Lady Amos. Where we can, we have already actioned work, and, where we need further work done, that will be developed over the next few months, at pace.

The noble Baroness raised a good point about the rollout of bereavement pathways, including for miscarriage. We are rolling out all five strands of the national bereavement care pathway. All trusts in England have signed up to implement the core standards of the national bereavement care pathway. That is relevant in this case and, across other areas of bereavement, is of particular concern.

As I draw my remarks in this section to a close, let me give noble Lords a sense of the urgency. The taskforce and its supporting expert reference groups are meeting tomorrow to discuss the findings of both the Donna Ockenden report, on which we had a Statement last week, and the report by the noble Baroness, Lady Amos. Next Tuesday, the taskforce—which is spearheading all this and chaired personally by the Secretary of State—will be meeting to discuss next steps for the action plan. To the questions from the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, about the commissioner’s role, the Secretary of State has already said that he wishes that the maternity and neonatal commissioner will co-chair the taskforce with him. That would be a very welcome move.

I hope that I have dealt with the questions and, more than that, given a sense of the pace and seriousness, as well as the action that I know we all seek.

Fracture Liaison Services

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 6th July 2026

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The noble Lord does not need to apologise for raising this extremely important matter. I am grateful for his campaigning on this, as I am to other noble Lords. There has been a lot of progress. In answer to his first question, I believe that it is possible, not least because all but two ICBs in the new, reconfigured groups have fracture liaison services already, with some having more than one. With respect to his specific request, as with other policies, I cannot give him exactly what he asks for, but I have already referred to some of the Government’s actions. We are looking, through the UK National Screening Committee, at screening women for osteoporosis, and a public consultation is about to start. We are cutting waiting times, and we have expanded community diagnostic centres and DEXA scanners. These, along with a whole range of other measures, show real commitment to tackling the matter that the noble Lord rightly raises, which affects lives and costs lives.

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My Lords, people from deprived areas have a 25% higher risk of fractures, spend longer in hospital recovering and die in greater numbers after hip fractures. The rollout of fracture liaison services is important to help tackle health inequalities. The Minister mentioned 2030, but how can this be rolled out faster to make sure that we help all these communities?

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We have rolled this out further, as we inherited a more limited coverage of fracture liaison services than we have currently, and we are looking at how to improve access. As I said to the noble Lord, 23 out of 25 ICBs have at least one fracture liaison service. We will push this forward through various means, including the Best Practice Guide for NHS Frailty Pathways, which recommends comprehensive neighbourhood-level frailty plans, and the modern service framework, to mention a couple of ways. I have to emphasise that this is about a complete change in the delivery of NHS services, from which fracture liaison will greatly benefit.

Children’s and Young People’s Mental Health Services

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Thursday 2nd July 2026

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I agree with the noble Baroness’s observations. Early intervention is key. That is what our entire focus is on, in the ways we have already discussed, and also on developing a children and young people’s modern service framework because we want to reduce variation and ensure that children get the right support at the right time.

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My Lord, recent analysis from the charity Young Minds shows that, for the eighth month in a row, the average waiting time from referral to specialist support for young people was more than 300 days, and in the worst case it was two and a half years. Will the Government commit to using the forthcoming cross-government strategy to deliver open-access mental health support in every community for young people up to the age of 25?

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The point about age is important and one that we will be considering as we go forward with the mental health strategy. Waiting times are way too long, but there is a particular challenge that we have to meet, which is that some 10% of young people are waiting for an inordinate amount of time, as the noble Baroness said. I was very glad that the report does recognise that increased prevalence is a driver. One in 10 17 to 19 year-olds was in need in 2017 and now it is 1.4. I think that gives some idea of the scale and of why we have to make such a systematic change.

IVF Treatment

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Wednesday 1st July 2026

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I recognise the situation that my noble friend describes and note that, while the relevant Act has provided a strong framework for over three decades, the fact is that treatment, science and societal expectations have all evolved very significantly since the last major reform in 2008. It is the case that the Act does not currently provide powers to ban add-ons. We are constantly looking at what we can do while we await and consider legislative change, but that really is the best way forward to tackle this.

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My Lords, the reality is that patients in England are struggling to access publicly funded IVF, with only two out of the 42 integrated care boards in England complying with NICE fertility guidelines. Can the Minister advise whether the Government are considering following Wales and Scotland in centralising commissioning for IVF rather than the current postcode lottery?

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We are not doing that, not least because, as the noble Baroness is aware, we believe that the needs of the local population are best served through local decision-making and through the integrated care boards. That said, I absolutely recognise that access to NHS-funded fertility services is variable, and we are reviewing the situation so that we can determine the next steps. I should emphasise that NHS commissioning organisations are expected to commission fertility services. They do have NICE guidance, which we are supporting them in following.

Extreme Heat: Resilience of NHS Infrastructure

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 30th June 2026

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We are already investing some £30 billion of capital across the NHS estate. I have mentioned the most serious infrastructure risks, which the noble Lord rightly refers to. While we accept the age of the estate and its size—I noted in preparing for this Question that we are talking about the equivalent of 4,000 football pitches—we also have a backlog of maintenance issues, which have grown and grown. We estimate that some £15.9 billion is needed. While there are no easy solutions, we do have a resilience plan not just for overheating but for all threats to resilience arising from temperature. We are also providing the funding—although, to the point the noble Lord makes, it is down to local decision-making—and ensuring that we are assisting the estate across the country to meet the challenges, the priority being those areas that need it most.

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My Lords, aside from the estate, patients on medications known to cause issues in extreme heat are not always being given specific advice on adjusting use of these during extreme weather and, as a result, have been admitted to hospital. What work is the department doing, particularly given that we have further hot weather coming, to ensure that patients receive the right advice and support to avoid hospital admissions as a result of such hot weather?

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The recent heat health alert was the first alert since July 2022. Importantly, the UK Health Security Agency has updated its weather health alert system in order that action can be taken and preparations put in place. It has also expanded its guidance, communications and the training of staff across the health and social care sector, so they can better deal with the challenges.

Nottingham Maternity and Neonatal Services

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 29th June 2026

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My Lords, the Statement before us today from the Secretary of State in the other place is distressing reading, as is the report by Donna Ockenden. This review shocks us all to the core and must shake the Government into real action at every level of our health service and its regulation. Staff concerns were dismissed, a board did nothing and regulators failed in their duties. There was a simple refusal to listen to women and their families, causing such loss, trauma, negligence and damage, alongside bullying, organisational failures and the horrendous misplacing of bodies. Words just cannot express this horror. What brave and resilient families to keep fighting for justice; I thank them all.

I heard the deeply moving testimony at the press conference last week about the mental health legacy for bereaved parents. One explained how she had lost all trust in the NHS and had the constant, triggering experience of having to engage in her daily life with the organisation she holds responsible for the loss of her baby. It is hard to imagine.

This review, and the upcoming wider review from the noble Baroness, Lady Amos, must draw the line. This has to stop. Mothers, babies, children and families must have confidence that they will be provided with first-class maternity services, wherever they live in our country. There must be quality services that meet their needs whatever their age or background, with respect and dignity at the heart.

I welcome the taskforce, chaired by the Secretary of State. It will be crucial to ensuring the implementation of recommendations at every trust and to ensure that whistleblowing throughout the NHS works. An independent patient voice must remain part of our health service to help hold NHS trusts to account. We will revisit this point with the NHS Bill later this year.

I understand that, in 2018, over 50 members of staff wrote to the chair of Nottingham’s board, stating plainly that there were significant safety concerns. The letter was not even discussed by the board—it went to a sub-committee and was buried. In 2023, the chief executive found that the trust had never formally investigated staff shortages. I cannot get my head around this, as someone who has sat on many different boards over the years. This is not good practice. I therefore ask the Minister what urgent work the Government are undertaking to assess the competence of NHS trust boards. What changes may take place to strengthen them and to ensure that they carry out their serious role and responsibilities thoroughly and robustly?

The Government must also take action to strengthen whistleblowing powers in the NHS. My Liberal Democrat colleagues in the other place have tabled amendments to the Health Bill which would provide new powers for coroners and medical examiners to report suspected health failings. Will the Government look to support those amendments to strengthen whistleblowing in the NHS?

Finally, families need to have confidence in their local maternity services, and those services need to all be at the highest standard. Will the Government commit to a maternity rescue package to deliver this, including one-to-one midwifery care for every woman in labour and consultant obstetricians present 24/7 on every labour ward?

A big step change is needed to transform maternity services across the country that every family and every individual can have confidence in. I look forward to the Minister's response.

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My Lords, we find ourselves deeply affected, as we have heard from both Front Benches. I am grateful for the tone and for the acknowledgement of the experiences of bereaved and harmed families who are at the absolute centre of this. The noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, said that she could not get her head around many of these things; I am sure we are all in agreement on that. I share the views of both Front Benches. I am grateful for the support for action. I absolutely agree with the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, that there is only one test: action. As the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, said, it is also about confidence and step change. We all want to get this right. It is not recent; it is not isolated—as both Front Benches identified. It should not be the case that those who are bereaved and harmed have had to show such courage and determination. This is an impossible circumstance that people are in. The noble Lord, Lord Kamall, said that people understandably often do not wish to add to their distress. The fact is that women, babies and families have all been terribly let down, not as a one-off but by a system—a system that failed to listen, failed to be transparent and, to make it even worse, failed to provide the truth when things went wrong. We are looking at 13 years, since 2012. This is a sustained approach that was totally unacceptable.

On behalf of the Government, I want to say how deeply sorry I am, and the Government are, for what every family has suffered and for those who have been affected. I also want to thank parents and families for their courage and determination for sharing their experiences. Without that, Donna Ockenden and her team—to whom I express great gratitude—could not have done the work that they did. They have been diligent; they have shown compassion and great detail, and it will make a difference.

To the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, I can say that, certainly, the Government are going to deliver a clear and deliverable plan by the end of the year. As the noble Lord and the noble Baroness have asked for, these will indeed be system-wide improvements, so that everyone can have full confidence across maternity and neonatal services—and, yes, it will have milestones and transparency. How will this be done? The noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, has spoken about the taskforce. That is important. It is personally chaired by the Secretary of State. There is a very good reason for that—to give the absolute authority of his office. I am the deputy chair of that taskforce. It brings together many groups, including through the expert reference groups, but, crucially, it includes affected families and Michelle Welsh, MP for Sherwood Forrest, who would describe herself as someone who has been harmed in this terrible catalogue of heartbreaking experiences. She is our first appointed maternity adviser to the Secretary of State.

How will we deliver through the taskforce a clear action plan that will make a difference? We will bring together the national recommendations from this review and the independent review from my noble friend Lady Amos, rightly established by the former Secretary of State, which will report this Wednesday. The work will also look at previous reviews. It is right to say that there have been many previous reviews and lessons clearly have not been learned, which is totally unacceptable. It will be our duty to deliver that lasting change through the National Maternity and Neonatal Taskforce.

I have some immediate responses to the points raised by noble Lords on the Front Benches. The Secretary of State announced last week that we are extending Martha’s rule straightaway to all maternity and neonatal services. That means that every parent or caring person supporting a birth can request a rapid review from an independent medical team if the condition of a baby or mother is deteriorating and they are concerned that it is not being responded to. This is a very important step on the point of real listening.

I was also absolutely shocked to read the findings on mortuaries. They are chilling and deeply distressing. It is hard to believe that these things could ever be allowed to happen. There is a live police investigation, and two people have recently been arrested—noble Lords will appreciate that I cannot say more. Two immediate actions are also being taken: the Human Tissue Authority is conducting an urgent national review of mortuary incident reporting and NHS England, on instruction from the Secretary of State, is writing to all trusts to ensure that they consider the findings on mortuary care in this report.

I will pick up some of the questions asked by the Front Benches. On the point about boards being accountable for an open culture and patient safety coming first, that is their job. Noble Lords will not be surprised to hear that there has been a change of leadership. This week, the Secretary of State is meeting the chief executive and interim chair to discuss this point. Boards are held accountable to ensure that there is a patient safety culture through strict duties, independent oversight and targeted regulatory assessments. Clearly, this was not the case here and in other areas, but I welcome the change in leadership and their commitment to delivering a change of culture. I am grateful to Donna Ockenden for recognising that there have been improvements, though she is right that more needs to happen. As I said earlier, this is not just one random situation in one area—it goes so much deeper than that.

The noble Lord, Lord Kamall, asked about workforce. One of the recommended actions from the Nottingham report is that a perinatal workforce tool be developed. This will be considered by the taskforce along with all the other recommendations, as we have discussed.

The noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, asked about the urgent work to assess the competence of NHS trust boards. For example, the Nottingham trust has a learning and improvement board to oversee the required improvements, chaired by Michelle Welsh MP. It is supported by a family board and a staff board, which is the model we need to see.

On strengthening whistleblowing as part of the taskforce’s work, we will be looking at all parts of the health system when things go wrong, including how accountability is established and, if necessary, strengthened. On a maternity rescue package, continuity of care, referred to by the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, is an action in the report from Nottingham and will be considered closely by the taskforce.

The noble Lord, Lord Kamall, asked about sodium valproate compensation. The Patient Safety Commissioner rightly continues to press on that. I do not have a specific update for the noble Lord; as soon as I do, I will be very glad to write to him.

It is impossible not to be affected by this report, but I consider it a luxury that I am affected in how I feel rather than in what has happened to me. Again, I apologise for myself and on behalf of the Government for the harm, losses and trauma that continue to this day. I commit us to doing all we can to make sure this is not repeated, and I am grateful to have the support of the Front Benches in doing this.

Resistant Hypertension

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Wednesday 24th June 2026

(4 months, 2 weeks ago)

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I can indeed give the commitment to my noble friend that NHS England is currently reviewing the clinical evidence for the commissioning of renal denervation treatment, and recommendations are expected next year.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, while innovative treatments have an important role, uncontrolled high blood pressure remains one of the leading drivers of stroke, heart attacks and kidney failure. What work are the Government undertaking to improve prevention and management of high blood pressure, particularly in communities with the highest prevalence and the poorest outcomes?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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The noble Baroness is right in what she says. This is a largely preventable condition and requires much movement from treatment to prevention, as the noble Baroness said. That means bearing down on certain lifestyle factors and encouraging people to seek to give up smoking, or not to take it up in the first place; to tackle obesity and support people in that; and to reduce alcohol consumption. It is important to note that identifying it at an early stage is crucial, because it allows us not only to support lifestyle changes but, where necessary, to provide medical intervention.

NHS: Dementia Treatment Trials

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 22nd June 2026

(4 months, 3 weeks ago)

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Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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We do indeed, and I certainly agree with the noble Baroness. A timely diagnosis is absolutely vital to make sure that people with dementia can access everything they need, live well and remain independent for as long as possible. We are committed to recovering the dementia diagnosis rate to the national figure of 66.7%, and as of 31 March the figure stood at 66.3%. That is an increase from the time before and we will continue, through developing the modern service framework, to drive that upwards.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, dementia is projected to reach 1.4 million people by 2040, yet Alzheimer’s Research UK reports that up to 45% of dementia cases could be prevented or delayed. Will the Government commit to a national dementia public awareness campaign to support risk reduction and healthier ageing?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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Encouraging people to age well and healthily is indeed part of our whole drive in terms of prevention and moving away from sickness. As part of this, it is absolutely crucial that we have the NIHR and UKRI, which are the relevant arms of our health service where we are investing in that dementia research. Causes, diagnostics and prevention in order to get treatment, care and support, as the noble Baroness says, are absolutely crucial. I would include carers in that too.

Prostate Cancer Screening: AI

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Thursday 18th June 2026

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Yes, I agree with the noble Lord. While we are ambitious about the benefits of AI and wish to embrace them, we are equally clear that safety, fairness and public trust have to come first. That means that the National Commission into the Regulation of AI in Healthcare, which was established by the MHRA, will review the current regulations and provide the recommendations for a new regulatory framework. I assure your Lordships’ House that AI always will support professionals, not replace accountability.

Baroness Pidgeon Portrait Baroness Pidgeon (LD)
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My Lords, AI has the potential to significantly improve options for patients, but this will be possible only if NHS staff have the right skills, time and infrastructure to be able to test and use such tools. How will the Government invest in staff to help drive this innovation and improve outcomes for patients?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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That is why we are publishing the workforce plan fairly soon, why we are building our cancer workforce and why we are creating new opportunities across multidisciplinary teams. Certainly, the use of AI is absolutely key, and we are, not least, working closely with the Royal College of Radiologists.

Integrated Care Boards: Budgets

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Wednesday 17th June 2026

(4 months, 3 weeks ago)

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The noble Lord actually outlines our entire focus. In March this year, we published the neighbourhood health framework that will empower local leaders to develop and scale neighbourhood health. It is important to recognise that this is not just more of the same; this is actually a change. It is a major shift, as outlined in the 10-year health plan on the back of the independent review by the noble Lord, Lord Darzi, that will mean that we can deliver what noble Lords rightly press me for: better patient-focused care, closer to home and with lower waiting times. That is the entire focus of the new arrangements. All the guidance and the targets that are set focus on that, which has not been the case previously.

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My Lords, since last year the number of patients waiting more than a year for basic community health services has shot up by a staggering 32%. What specific actions will the Government take to ensure that patients receive timely community health services?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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In February 2025 we published an overview of core community health services, Standardising Community Health Services, in order that ICBs should not just bear it in mind but act on it when planning for their local populations. I know that noble Lords are aware of this, but I often remind myself that ICBs are the best place to ensure that local health services meet the needs of local people. To assist the noble Baroness, we have also set very clear ambitions in our medium-term planning framework that mean that, by 2028-29, at least 80% of community health service activity should take place within 18 weeks, which would bring it in line with targets for elective care.

Compassionate Use Medicine Schemes: VAT

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Tuesday 16th June 2026

(4 months, 4 weeks ago)

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Baroness Merron Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Health and Social Care (Baroness Merron) (Lab)
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It is important to say, first, that this is not a new policy. There is recognition that while early access and compassionate use programmes are crucial, they are voluntary for pharma companies, which are aware, as I say, that VAT is applicable in these instances; it has been in place for decades. To be brief in answering the questions, first, I am not aware of the second issue that the noble Lord raised with regard to discussions—this is a totally different matter, in any case. Secondly, we are working closely with pharma companies, patients and anybody else who needs to be involved to find a sensible solution on this long-standing policy, which I understand was particularly discovered in 2023 by HMRC—so we are dealing with it from then. I have forgotten the third question, but I would be happy to write—oh, I know it. Yes, we always look at where revenue can be used, in a generic sense, but what matters here is that is not new. It was discovered in 2023, and it is entirely up to pharma companies—to which we are most grateful for the compassionate use of medicines, I should add—whether they wish to do it.

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My Lords, compassionate use and early access schemes are often the only way for patients with rare cancers to access life-extending medicines. What assurance can the Minister give that HMRC’s approach to VAT will not result in patients losing access to these vital treatments? What discussions about the impact has the department had with cancer charities?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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Cancer charities are important in this area, and we are certainly engaging with them; they are very invested partners. I understand why people are concerned. This is not instead of the NHS. NHS medicines are provided on the advice and guidance of NICE, and that absolutely continues. As I say, what we need to do, and what we will do, is work with everyone concerned to find a solution quickly, because we want to support the pharma companies that continue to donate what are very important medicines.

Miscarriage Care

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 18th May 2026

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To ask His Majesty’s Government what plans they have to improve miscarriage care and support.

Baroness Merron Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Health and Social Care (Baroness Merron) (Lab)
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My Lords, miscarriage can have a devastating impact on women and their families, and we are determined that they receive the support they need. We committed in the women’s health strategy to improve care for women, including carefully considering the graded model of care for repeated miscarriage. The National Maternity and Neonatal Taskforce will develop the national action plan to improve maternity and neonatal safety and experiences, and it will follow the pending recommendations of the independent investigation by the noble Baroness, Lady Amos.

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There are around 250,000 miscarriages in the UK every year. Following the recent Tommy’s Graded Model of Miscarriage Care report, will the Government now review the specific requirement for women to experience three miscarriages before being able to access the support that could help prevent another loss?

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This is an extremely important area, and I acknowledge very much that the current situation is not working for women or their families. To emphasise, we very much welcome the report from Tommy’s miscarriage centre at Birmingham Women’s and Children’s Hospital, which is about the effectiveness of its piloted model of sporadic or recurrent miscarriage care. I visited them when I first took office and was very taken by their work. I am glad they have reported, and, as confirmed in the women’s health strategy, we shall be looking very closely at this. It will deal with and refer to the point the noble Baroness makes.

Healthy Life Expectancy: England

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Monday 18th May 2026

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I recognise the noble Lord’s point. We are certainly seeking to give individuals the ability to grasp the opportunity to live well for longer and to support them in their choices. For example, in addition to the points I made to the noble Lord, Lord Krebs, we are working on restricting volume price promotions such as “buy three for the price of two” offers on less healthy food and drink.

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My Lords, given that the UK is an outlier compared to similar countries, what work are the Government doing to introduce proactive, preventive health measures, such as routine health MOTs for people, to try to reverse this trend?

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I welcome the noble Baroness to her Front Bench on the important matter of health and social care. I am most grateful for her question. We have to be ambitious, which is what the 10-year health plan is doing, in transforming how we tackle the biggest causes of ill health. We are going to take a whole-society approach and a whole-person approach, rather than dealing just with conditions. To the points made earlier, we will be working with individuals—as in the public—and in partnership with business and civil society.

Anti-depressants: Cost, Risks and Ramifications

Debate between Baroness Merron and Baroness Pidgeon
Wednesday 11th December 2024

(1 year, 11 months ago)

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I assure the noble Lord that NICE keeps all its clinical guidance under active surveillance to ensure that it can respond to any new evidence that is relevant, including relevant clinically related literature, that could possibly impact on its recommendations. More broadly, guidance recommends that suicidal ideation should be monitored in people with depression who are receiving treatment, particularly in the early weeks of treatment. That includes specific recommendations on medication for people at risk of suicide.

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My Lords, a study in 2019 found that a third of women were prescribed anti-depressants by their GP to combat symptoms of the menopause. What are the Government’s current assessment of this situation and of adherence to NICE guidance in this area? If the Minister does not have full details to hand, perhaps she can write to me.

Baroness Merron Portrait Baroness Merron (Lab)
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I would be very pleased to write further to the noble Baroness. This is a very important point about support for women during the menopause. However, a prescription is made only after discussion with the patient about it and other alternatives, and the clinician has to follow and comply with the guidelines. Patient choice is absolutely key here. Every individual is an individual, and only what is appropriate should be prescribed—if needed.