Horizon Europe

Baroness Rawlings Excerpts

Wednesday 13th September 2023 Lords Chamber

[Viscount Camrose (Con)]

I said at the time that I would ask for those costs to be analysed, and that is in train. When that will be shared, I do not know, but I invite the noble Baroness to consider that the costs of non-association to Horizon for us were those of uncertainty. How much greater would that uncertainty, and therefore the cost, have been had we not had a plan B in the form of Pioneer? Proceeding without Pioneer would have been reckless in the extreme. Whatever costs were incurred—and I will, as I promised, do my best to find out what they were—pale in comparison with what the costs of not doing it would have been.

[Baroness Rawlings (Con)]

My Lords, we have the finest universities in the world. What are the Government’s plans for Erasmus?

[Viscount Camrose (Con)]

At this time, the Government are not re-associating with Erasmus, instead relying on their innovative Turing programme.