Thursday 3rd September 2020

(3 years, 8 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bethell Portrait Lord Bethell (Con)
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The noble Lord is entirely right to raise the terrible statistics on BAME health workers. It is not conclusively understood why the numbers are as dramatic as he articulated. I am afraid we are still speculating, and a huge amount of work is being undertaken by PHE in this area to understand it better. Some of it is because BAME front-line workers selflessly put themselves in harm’s way in environments where there are higher risks, despite the extraordinary efforts of trusts and CCGs to protect them. Part of it is the living arrangements and part is the behavioural arrangements. These things are explicitly explained in the PHE report, but it is a matter of huge concern. Trusts and CCGs have been urged to put risk-management practices in place according to local needs and arrangements, and the numbers have changed as a result of these policies.

Lord Bradshaw Portrait Lord Bradshaw (LD) [V]
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I want to talk about areas other than London. The bus industry has made huge efforts to make its buses safe for people to use, yet people who put in local lockdowns are still advising people not to use public transport. What is the scientific basis for that advice?

Lord Bethell Portrait Lord Bethell (Con)
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My Lords, I do not support that advice. I took the bus to work today and encourage others to do the same.