Debates between Lord Forsyth of Drumlean and Baroness Smith of Newnham during the 2019 Parliament

Economy: The Growth Plan 2022

Debate between Lord Forsyth of Drumlean and Baroness Smith of Newnham
Monday 10th October 2022

(1 year, 7 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Smith of Newnham Portrait Baroness Smith of Newnham (LD)
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My Lords, I have not been watching British politics and economics for quite the 60 years that the noble Baroness, Lady Blackstone, referred to. My first memory of the British economy was during the three-day week in the early 1970s and its periodic blackouts. My father and I visited my great-uncle, who had a corner shop; I would have been about three or four, but even then I can remember him talking about the difficulties of getting in produce, as supermarkets found it so much easier to undercut. There were changes in the economy then that were not necessarily attractive; they were not necessarily times we would want to go back to. The 1970s were probably the worst time for the British economy that I and many others remember.

When we voted for Brexit, despite the Project Fear perhaps put out by some, I did not expect that we would indeed end up in a period where there would be threats of blackouts and growth would be slipping back as much as it is.

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean Portrait Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Con)
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It has nothing to do with Brexit.

Baroness Smith of Newnham Portrait Baroness Smith of Newnham (LD)
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The noble Lord says from a sedentary position that it has nothing to do with Brexit—