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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 17 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"My Lords, I would just point out that Amendment 62, which has not been included with this group of amendments, will deal with a particular way of trying to alleviate the problems about the special advocate. We will come to that in the next group...."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 17 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"I appreciate that there is always the danger of what Lord Wilberforce once described as the “austerity of tabulated legalism”. I ask my noble and learned friend whether it is absolutely clear that, in exercising the rule-making power under Clause 7, nothing will be done to disturb the overriding objective, …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 17 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"My Lords, my name appears on some of these amendments, and I will briefly make a couple of points. I say first to my noble friend Lord Hodgson that he makes a mistake if he refers to me as heavy artillery, since I was the most inefficient gunner officer during …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 17 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"Is the noble Lord aware of a case I once did, Tinnelly and McElduff v UK, where there was a conclusive certificate of national security under our law which prevented these Northern Irish Catholics from having the merits of their religious discrimination claim heard at all when they were blacklisted? …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 17 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"My difficulty with my noble and learned friend’s reply is that he keeps saying: “I hope that Members of the House will be reassured”, but we need reassurance in the legislation itself. The problem is that there are no controlling principles. We do not have a written constitutional charter of …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 11 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"My Lords, in a sense, we have been through this before. This is another means of tackling the problem. I entirely agree with the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, in raising issues of public confidence. It is a matter of great concern to me that what we call civil society—often very …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 11 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"My Lords, perhaps I may ask a question related to the same provision. Subsection (5)(c) states that nothing in those sections,

“is to be read as requiring a court or tribunal to act in a manner inconsistent with Article 6 of the Human Rights Convention”.

I take it that what …..."

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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 11 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"Is the answer to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer, that the principle of proportionality is intended to apply here—in other words, that the court must exercise a sense of proportion once a case is through the gateway? If that is so, it is very important. Can the Government …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 11 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"I was trying to be helpful—and obviously failing—in asking why the Government do not accept that the principle of proportionality must apply at the second stage. It is an ancient principle of our common law that you do not take a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Provided that the judge …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 11 Jul 2012
Justice and Security Bill [HL]

"I am sorry to pursue the matter once more. When a judge is deciding on the scope of an injunction, or on whether a restraint of trade is no more than is necessary, that judge is then applying the principle of proportionality. I do not understand why the same does …..."
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