Medical Training (Prioritisation) Bill Debate

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Department: Department of Health and Social Care
Lord Patel Portrait Lord Patel (CB)
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My Lords, when there is such a short Bill, there is a temptation to repeat what has already been said in great detail, because it has not been said by me. I will not succumb to that temptation but will briefly point out the areas where I agree with what has been said, particularly by the noble Earl, Lord Howe, the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay.

In the many letters and emails—hundreds of them—that I have received, two things stood out. One was the grievance felt by people who were already in the process of applying for the jobs; they now feel as if they have been thrown to the wolves. The other lot were the people who are British citizens who trained overseas and cannot now access training in our programmes. There is one other minority group: those who felt that they have had some experience in the NHS, but it is not as yet defined how much of their experience, starting in 2027, will be counted. The noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, referred to the immigration requirements which may or may not be counted, but that produces another. These are the groups that feel disadvantaged. What I felt on receiving these letters was that we are making people who have serviced our NHS for decades feel they are no longer required and are to be abandoned. I hope we do not give that impression.

Having said that, I recognise that, in principle, the idea that UK medical graduates should be prioritised for jobs in our NHS is correct, because it is not right that they cannot get the jobs they apply for, particularly in foundation and specialist training. On the foundation programme in Clause 1, I am concerned that British citizens who may have trained in GMC-approved institutions with the same kind of curriculum described by the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, cannot be considered for that. I have already made the point about specialist training programmes and those who have gone through the process of applying in good faith. We do not as yet know what experience will be counted from 2027 onwards, so I hope the Minister can comment on that.

Clause 4 refers to a “UK medical graduate”, and says:

“‘UK medical graduate’ means a person who holds a primary United Kingdom qualification”.


It does not say a “UK citizen” who is qualified. Does that mean that an overseas student attending medical courses in our universities, who is therefore a graduate of our universities, qualifies or not? I might be wrong in my interpretation. The clause continues:

“but does not include a person”

with

“a majority of their … training for that qualification outside the British Islands”.

Some of our universities run joint courses. I am a professor emeritus of the University of Dundee, which, for instance, runs one course for Malaysian students. They do part of their training in Malaysia and finish their clinical training in the UK, at Dundee. The Bill refers to a majority of their training but, in a five-year course, if the overseas student does three years in a UK university, does that count as a majority of their training in the United Kingdom?

I am glad that the Minister alluded to refugee status and was pleased to hear what she said. That was to be one of my points, because I have had representation from Ukrainian refugees who are already working in the NHS, and whose status would otherwise have been removed.

Clause 4(5) says:

“‘primary medical qualification’ means a qualification that is treated by the General Medical Council as equivalent to a primary United Kingdom qualification within the meaning of the Medical Act”.

There are lots of institutions which the GMC recognises as equivalent, but we do not regard their graduates as UK graduates, although they do the same curriculum. Universities such as Newcastle have already been mentioned several times. They have been encouraged by the education department to open campuses, as other universities have been, and to provide the same curriculum. There are then graduates of Queen Mary University, Newcastle University or Dundee University. Their status is not quite clear.

I am concerned about these issues and hope that we will be able to have greater clarification. But I accept that, in principle, prioritising postgraduate medical training for UK graduates is correct.