Debates between Lord Sharpe of Epsom and Lord Baker of Dorking during the 2019 Parliament

Wed 17th May 2023
Tue 28th Mar 2023
Public Order Bill
Lords Chamber

Consideration of Commons amendments

Vagrancy Act 1824

Debate between Lord Sharpe of Epsom and Lord Baker of Dorking
Wednesday 17th May 2023

(11 months, 2 weeks ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Sharpe of Epsom Portrait Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
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It is felt that certain other types of activity associated with vagrancy should be looked into, including things such as nuisance and organised begging.

Lord Baker of Dorking Portrait Lord Baker of Dorking (Con)
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My Lords, is the Minister aware that the Vagrancy Act 1824 was introduced because many soldiers who had fought in the Napoleonic Wars had no employment and resorted to begging? As far as I know, from our recent war in Iraq, no vagrants are now begging. Does the Minister not think that he ought to catch up with what has happened in the last 200 years?

Lord Sharpe of Epsom Portrait Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
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I thank my noble friend for the history lesson.

Public Order Bill

Debate between Lord Sharpe of Epsom and Lord Baker of Dorking
Lord Baker of Dorking Portrait Lord Baker of Dorking (Con)
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Would the Minister answer a question? In a situation where there is a protest preventing traffic, which is very grave and serious, and there are two people young people involved in it, if the police decided to use their power to strip and search, what would they expect to find on those two young people?

Lord Sharpe of Epsom Portrait Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
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My Lords, we are debating stop and search. I am not quite sure where strip and search came into this, I am sorry.