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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 14 Dec 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"At end insert “and do propose Amendment 1D as an amendment in lieu—..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 14 Dec 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"My Lords, the Justice Minister, Dominic Raab, speaking on “Today” this morning, said:

“I’m proud of our tradition of freedom in this country. We believe in liberty under the rule of law … We want to reinforce our typical British liberties like freedom of speech, the liberty that guards all …..."

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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 14 Dec 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"My Lords, I thank everybody who has contributed to this debate. Many fine words have been said and two issues have really come forward. The first is the denial of the right to trial by jury to members of the Armed Forces—they sign away that right when they join up. …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 08 Dec 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"At end insert “, and do propose Amendment 1B in lieu—..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 08 Dec 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"My Lords, I will start with a quotation. In the Ministry of Defence

“there is one individual who is refusing to back down from the alleyway he has found himself in.”—[Official Report, Commons, 6/12/21; col. 105.]

Those are the words of the former Defence Minister Johnny Mercer, speaking …..."

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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 08 Dec 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"Obviously, I misheard the noble Baroness. I will continue. As I said on Report, I am not aware of any murders committed in the UK by service personnel that have been tried by court martial. Of course, that could have happened only since 2006, when the novel change to concurrent …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 08 Dec 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"Perhaps I might challenge the Minister on that. If the civil jurisdiction is to be used for an offence committed in Scotland or Northern Ireland, court martials then become immaterial—so there is no problem, as the Minister seems to think. This point has not been raised at any stage of …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Wed 08 Dec 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"My Lords, I will pursue that for a moment. The number of cases heard in courts martial is probably fewer than 10 for sexual offences, or at least fewer than 20. I cannot imagine that in six months, we deal with more than four or five cases, but no doubt …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 23 Nov 2021
Armed Forces Bill

"My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Morris of Aberavon, for his support, and I congratulate him on the attempts that he has made over a long time to civilianise military law. I am pleased that he mentioned Lord Elwyn-Jones, who admitted me to …..."
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Speech in Lords Chamber - Tue 23 Nov 2021
Armed Forces Bill

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