Debates between Philip Davies and Mark Pawsey during the 2010-2015 Parliament

Empty Property Rates (SMEs)

Debate between Philip Davies and Mark Pawsey
Wednesday 11th January 2012

(14 years, 1 month ago)

Westminster Hall
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Philip Davies Portrait Philip Davies (in the Chair)
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Does the hon. Gentleman have permission from both the Member who secured the debate and the Minister to speak?

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Mark Pawsey Portrait Mark Pawsey
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Mr Davies, I have spoken to my hon. Friend who secured the debate, but not the Minister. Could I have two minutes to speak?

Philip Davies Portrait Philip Davies (in the Chair)
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You can speak very briefly, because we want to hear the Minister’s response to the debate.

Commercial Property

Debate between Philip Davies and Mark Pawsey
Wednesday 17th November 2010

(15 years, 3 months ago)

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Philip Davies Portrait Philip Davies (in the Chair)
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Order. I remind Members that interventions, particularly in a half-hour debate, should be as short as possible.

Mark Pawsey Portrait Mark Pawsey
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for her contribution. I know that even in areas where rents have been reduced to the level that she mentioned, there are still no takers. If no businesses are willing to take the premises, the price is irrelevant. We know that the situation must change.

The regulations have been in force for more than two years and have had a number of effects, some of which the property industry expected and warned the Government about at the time of the change. On the failure to provide services, it can be argued in the interest of fairness that business rates are a tax on occupation with the intention of raising funds, in the same way as the council tax. However, clearly, if a property is not occupied, no services are being consumed, and it follows quite reasonably that no tax should be payable.

In many cases, the tax has become a tax on ownership rather than a tax on an income stream. Taxes are usually based on income streams, which means that they can be paid from profits earned. Again, where a commercial property is vacant, there is no income stream on which that tax can be levied.