Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Cabinet Office

Oral Answers to Questions

Barbara Keeley Excerpts
Wednesday 21st March 2012

(12 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Oliver Letwin Portrait Mr Letwin
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First, if the hon. Gentleman recalls his time as the Parliamentary Private Secretary to the previous Prime Minister, he will be aware that he was serving a past master at giving foretastes of Budgets. Secondly, I am surprised that the hon. Gentleman feels he knows what is or is not a leak, as he has not seen the Budget yet, and nor has the House.

Barbara Keeley Portrait Barbara Keeley (Worsley and Eccles South) (Lab)
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2. What recent discussions he has had with permanent secretaries on Government outsourcing of policy advice.

Lord Maude of Horsham Portrait The Minister for the Cabinet Office and Paymaster General (Mr Francis Maude)
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The head of the civil service has set up a number of themed groups to explore various aspects of civil service reform. One is exploring whether outsourcing policy making could deliver more creative and innovative results, while ensuring accountability and value for money, and I met permanent secretaries recently to discuss that and other issues.

Barbara Keeley Portrait Barbara Keeley
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The Cabinet Office spent almost £120,000 in one day in August last year on consultancy, and McKinsey & Company is reported to have earned almost £14 million from Government health policy since the election. Outsourcing policy advice is costly and can lead to conflicts of interest, so will Conservative Ministers stick to their pledge in their manifesto to reduce the amount of consultancy?

Lord Maude of Horsham Portrait Mr Maude
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Not only will we, but we have. We have more than halved—I stress, more than halved—the cost of consultancy to the taxpayer. Under the previous Government, such money was spent incontinently, and the result was bad value for money and the serious undermining of the self-esteem of professional civil servants, who like being asked to do difficult things and are very good at doing them.

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Lord Maude of Horsham Portrait Mr Maude
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Those plans were approved in 2008, when the current Leader of the Opposition was Minister for the Cabinet Office. It is therefore surprising that the shadow Minister for the Cabinet Office chose recently to mount an unprovoked attack on the decision made by his party leader.

Barbara Keeley Portrait Barbara Keeley (Worsley and Eccles South) (Lab)
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T3. Part of my constituency had a bad experience with the Big Lottery Fund, which awarded it £1 million, but then sat on the money for the best part of two years. Will the Minister give better policy direction to that body so that it does not award funding and then sit on it for two years?

Lord Maude of Horsham Portrait Mr Maude
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I hear what the hon. Lady says and I will look into it. I am surprised to hear that that was the case.