Debates between Baroness Kidron and Lord Clement-Jones during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Wed 13th Dec 2017
Data Protection Bill [HL]
Lords Chamber

Report: 2nd sitting (Hansard): House of Lords

Data Protection Bill [HL]

Debate between Baroness Kidron and Lord Clement-Jones
Monday 14th May 2018

(6 years ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Kidron Portrait Baroness Kidron (CB)
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I thank the Government for listening, the Bill team, the Secretary of State and the Minister, Margot James. The point is that rights are only as good as one’s ability to enact them, so I really welcome the review and I thank all concerned for the very great care and detail with which they have laid it out in the Bill.

Lord Clement-Jones Portrait Lord Clement-Jones
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My Lords, very briefly, we had considerable debate while the Bill was going through the House on whether we should incorporate Article 18(2) and we obviously did not prevail while the Bill was going through this House. Although this does not go as far as incorporating Article 18(2), which I regret—I would clearly like to see the whole loaf, so to speak—at least this gives the possibility of Article 18(2) being incorporated through a review. Will the Minister say when he thinks the review will be laid, in the form of a report? I am assuming that,

“within 30 months of commencement of the Bill”,

means within 30 months from 25 May this year. I am making that assumption so that we can all count the days to when the report will come back for debate in Parliament.

Data Protection Bill [HL]

Debate between Baroness Kidron and Lord Clement-Jones
Report: 2nd sitting (Hansard): House of Lords
Wednesday 13th December 2017

(6 years, 5 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Kidron Portrait Baroness Kidron (CB)
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I, too, support the amendment. I raised this issue at Second Reading and pointed to the work of the ethics committee of the IEEE, which has done a lot of work on this. This is not as blue sky as the noble Lord suggested; this is indeed the direction of travel.

Lord Clement-Jones Portrait Lord Clement-Jones
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My Lords, I am inspired by the last two speeches to add some words here. This is a very imaginative amendment. There is a great debate about ownership or control of one’s personal data, and this may be an elegant solution to some of that in future, although I suspect that the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, may be right in his prediction about the Government’s response at this stage. Again, it is a bit of future-proofing that we really should think about.

If the Government do not like this, how do they think portability will work? If portability is to be a substantive right that can be taken advantage of under the GDPR, this is a very good way to make sure that data can then be inserted into a vehicle as a result of it having been sought in a portable way. This could be a very imaginative way to give teeth to the right of portability. I shall be extremely interested to hear how, otherwise, the Government think it will take effect.