Prisoners: Transport Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Prisoners: Transport

Baroness Smith of Basildon Excerpts
Tuesday 7th February 2012

(12 years, 3 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Asked by
Baroness Smith of Basildon Portrait Baroness Smith of Basildon
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To ask Her Majesty’s Government what steps they are taking regarding the safety and reliability of the arrangements for transporting prisoners following the two recent ambushes and escapes.

Lord McNally Portrait The Minister of State, Ministry of Justice (Lord McNally)
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My Lords, the National Offender Management Service has taken immediate action to reinforce security procedures and staff have been instructed to ensure that these procedures are fully complied with.

Baroness Smith of Basildon Portrait Baroness Smith of Basildon
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I am grateful to the noble Lord; that is a helpful Answer. There is a very good record on prison security, which is why these two armed ambushes and escapes are so shocking. The week before last the Minister confirmed to your Lordships’ House that,

“escape must be made impossible”—[Official Report, 24/1/12; col. WA 220]—

for Category A prisoners. The second prisoner who escaped had previously absconded from court, was sentenced for GBH in his absence, and was given an indeterminate sentence for public protection because of the seriousness of his crimes. I find it incredible that, despite all that, he was given a Category C prisoner status and deemed to be unlikely to escape. Will the Minister look into this, and can he make arrangements to assure himself that when prisoners are transported, the security category is double-checked or reassessed to minimise any risk to the public or to staff?

Lord McNally Portrait Lord McNally
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My Lords, I appreciate the constructive nature of that question. I hope the noble Baroness will appreciate that a formal investigation is under way into the circumstances of both escapes, and the reports and recommendations will determine what further action may be required. A wider review is also under way into the procedures governing the escorting of prisoners outside of prisons, including the arrangements for transporting them. Her point about the categorisation of prisoners should, and I assume will be, part of that inquiry.