Debates between Debbie Abrahams and Mark Pawsey during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Universal Credit Roll-out

Debate between Debbie Abrahams and Mark Pawsey
Wednesday 18th October 2017

(6 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Debbie Abrahams Portrait Debbie Abrahams
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Absolutely, and I will go on to make those points in a moment.

Getting back to the principles, we supported those then and we support them now. The Government wanted to pilot the implementation of UC, so they introduced a number of pathfinder areas, including my Oldham constituency, and planned a phased roll-out between 2013 and 2017.

Mark Pawsey Portrait Mark Pawsey (Rugby) (Con)
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My constituency was also a pathfinder, and since the introduction of UC in 2012, the claimant count in my constituency has halved. Does the hon. Lady think the two issues are connected?

Debbie Abrahams Portrait Debbie Abrahams
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There may be many and varied reasons why the claimant count is down, not least the system of punitive sanctions the Government also introduced in 2012.