Debates between Emily Thornberry and Hywel Williams during the 2019 Parliament

Ministerial Severance: Reform

Debate between Emily Thornberry and Hywel Williams
Tuesday 6th February 2024

(2 months, 3 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Emily Thornberry Portrait Emily Thornberry
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My hon. Friend makes an important point. That is an important argument that will need to be considered.

Hywel Williams Portrait Hywel Williams (Arfon) (PC)
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The right hon. Lady is arguing that a certain lax culture has grown up under successive Conservative Governments that benefits few but taints us all, and I think it goes beyond severance pay. My right hon. Friend the Member for Dwyfor Meirionnydd (Liz Saville Roberts) proposed a private Member’s Bill—the Elected Representatives (Prohibition of Deception) Bill, which would have made it an offence for Ministers to knowingly and wilfully lie to the public. Is there any chance that an incoming Labour Government might adopt that?

Emily Thornberry Portrait Emily Thornberry
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If we are given the great honour of serving the public as the next Government, our Ministers will not deceive the public. We will be straightforward, and we will do our utmost to serve them to the best of our ability. We will be a Government to be proud of; we just need to have an opportunity.

For the purposes of explaining our motion, I will go through each of the five categories where a flaw in the rules was exposed in 2022-23 and give one example for each of how someone benefited. Mr Deputy Speaker, I have informed each of them that I am going to be raising their case.