Debates between George Galloway and Mark Francois during the 2019 Parliament

Armed Forces Readiness and Defence Equipment

Debate between George Galloway and Mark Francois
Thursday 21st March 2024

(1 month, 1 week ago)

Commons Chamber
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George Galloway Portrait George Galloway (Rochdale) (WPB)
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On that surreal note, let me quote Rudyard Kipling:

“We don’t want to fight, but by jingo if we do,

We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men, we’ve got the money too!”

There is plenty of jingo, but the ships, the men and the money are more difficult to find. I genuinely hope that some of the fantasy talk in this debate is widely seen by the general public. It was a Gilbert and Sullivan performance as Members first conceded that our weaknesses are such that we had to conceal the extent of them in the report—that is what the right hon. Member for Rayleigh and Wickford (Mr Francois) said in an intervention.

Mark Francois Portrait Mr Francois
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Will the hon. Member give way?

George Galloway Portrait George Galloway
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No, I will not. I am mindful of Madam Deputy Speaker’s injunction that she is fast running out of time, and I do not intend to take my whole 13 minutes. The right hon. Member should not worry—I will make sure that people see his performance. He said that we need to conceal the extent of our weakness, then he adumbrated our weakness. If that was not our total weakness—if there are weaknesses that he concealed from that list—I ask myself, why on earth are these people pirouetting in this Parliament about which enemy they are going fight, and in which theatre of war?

Mark Francois Portrait Mr Francois
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I will keep this brief. For the record, the gentleman has traduced me. He has said directly the opposite of what I actually said, as Hansard will show.

Rosie Winterton Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I thank the right hon. Gentleman for that point of order, which he has used to make his point. Let us return to George Galloway.