Securing Scotland’s Future: Defence Skills and Jobs Debate

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Securing Scotland’s Future: Defence Skills and Jobs

Harriett Baldwin Excerpts
Monday 26th October 2026

(2 days, 23 hours ago)

Commons Chamber
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Patricia Ferguson Portrait Patricia Ferguson
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My hon. Friend is right to highlight that point, because it was raised with us by those in the defence sector. The right to peaceful protest is something that we all recognise the need to respect and uphold, but she is right to highlight the problems that there have been on some occasions in the sector.

However, I draw heart from my experience of speaking to apprentices at BAE Systems in my constituency, who to my mind are the best advocates for the work that they are doing and the purpose to which that work will be put. They were able to tell me in very straightforward terms—just like they do with their mates down the pub at the weekend, as a couple of them told me—about the importance of their work, why they were doing it and how proud they were of it.

Harriett Baldwin Portrait Dame Harriett Baldwin (West Worcestershire) (Con)
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I thank the hon. Lady for her excellent report. Was she as shocked as I was to learn about the difficulty that defence firms in Scotland face in accessing basic banking services? Does she agree that the interpretation of ESG often does not recognise that, without strong defence, we would have no environment, society and governance in this country?

Patricia Ferguson Portrait Patricia Ferguson
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I thank the hon. Lady for that question. She is right; there is a great deal of misunderstanding around the defence sector. It is very difficult for people to understand its importance not just globally and nationally but locally. If that importance were better recognised and understood, it would be much better for the firms involved, so I very much hope that the Government take our point that they need to engage with the financial services sector to address that.