Electoral Registration and Administration Bill Debate

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Department: Leader of the House
Tuesday 29th January 2013

(11 years, 3 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Viscount Thurso Portrait John Thurso
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My hon. Friend is right. I just want to make it clear that when I entered this coalition, I made it clear to the leadership, when my party discussed whether we would accept this arrangement, that for me the agreement in toto was what counted and that Lords reform, as part of the constitutional arrangements, was vital. After the vote on Lords reform, I made it abundantly clear to my leadership that my position had changed and I could not, in all conscience, continue to support what we had done before. That is a fundamental point for myself and my colleagues.

I gently point out to my friends on the Government Benches, in the mildest manner possible, that they have got what they wanted: the great, the good, the wise, the academic, the apolitical, the ex-public servants and the generals, whom they strove so hard to protect, have come together in their wisdom and given us amendment 5. I beg the House to support it.

Kevin Brennan Portrait Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) (Lab)
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On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I hope that this is a point of order rather than a point of enormous wit—we shall discover.

Kevin Brennan Portrait Kevin Brennan
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It is not for me to judge, Mr Speaker. During the excellent speech by the hon. Member for Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross (John Thurso), he was intervened on a couple of times and was referred to as being the “noble” Member. Can you clarify whether or not there are any noble Members in this House? Or are we just all common?

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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All right hon. and hon. Members in this Chamber are equal. That is perhaps not the answer that the hon. Gentleman seeks, but it is the answer that he is going to get, especially as his attempted point of order was just that—attempted. It was many things but it was not a point of order.

Paul Blomfield Portrait Paul Blomfield (Sheffield Central) (Lab)
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I am delighted to have the opportunity to speak in the debate and to follow the hon. Member for Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross (John Thurso), who made a striking and powerful speech. I, like other Members, particularly enjoyed his last point.

I am pleased to be able to speak in opposition to the Government motion and in support of Lords amendments 5 and 23, and I welcome the cross-party support for those amendments in the other place and in the Chamber today. The other place has done democracy a great service by highlighting the link between this Bill and the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Act 2011, because, contrary to the point made by the Leader of the House, the impact of these two pieces of legislation together would have been unfairly to reduce the representation of our great cities and urban areas.

A number of Government Members have talked about the simple principle of fairness, and the Leader of the House talked about the disparities in the system. There are disparities, but they are not the ones that he talked about. If I were selected by my party members again, the proposed boundaries would benefit me electorally. Nevertheless, they are unfair and undermine our democracy because of the enormous mismatch between population and registered voters.

Kevin Brennan Portrait Kevin Brennan
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Is that not the heart of the argument, in that the Government’s original proposals were based on a principle of no representation without registration?

Paul Blomfield Portrait Paul Blomfield
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My hon. Friend makes a very powerful point. Indeed, that is at the heart of my argument.