Gross Domestic Product: Wales and the UK Debate

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Department: HM Treasury

Gross Domestic Product: Wales and the UK

Lord Anderson of Swansea Excerpts
Thursday 6th July 2023

(10 months, 1 week ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Penn Portrait Baroness Penn (Con)
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My Lords, perhaps I can provide a little reassurance to the noble Lord. Yes, the gap between GDP per head in Wales and the rest of the UK is too large, but Wales has had the highest growth in GDP per head since 2010 of all regions and nations across the UK, increasing by 15.7% compared with 6.9% across the UK. He talked about the Welsh Government and the UK Government working together. That is something that we have done successfully on city and growth deals across Wales that were developed jointly by the UK Government and the Welsh Government. This included £500 million for the Cardiff capital region and over £100 million in north Wales and Swansea. On his point about the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, he works hard and closely with the devolved Administrations—I know that is something he is very committed to—but I will take the noble Lord’s specific point away.

Baroness Williams of Trafford Portrait Baroness Williams of Trafford (Con)
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My Lords, I think that noble Lords need to decide between them which one of them will speak.

Lord Anderson of Swansea Portrait Lord Anderson of Swansea (Lab)
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May I invite the Minister to examine all the relevant indices of poverty and deprivation? She will find that Wales is mostly at the bottom, with 75% of the average, whereas the Government in levelling up concentrates simply on north-south. Should not the Government by contrast look also at the east-west divide?

Baroness Penn Portrait Baroness Penn (Con)
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I reassure the noble Lord that levelling up is not viewed through the prism that he says it is. When it comes to the looking at the needs in Wales and the funding to be matched to them, that is what we do through the Welsh fiscal framework. In the 2021 spending review, the largest annual block grant in real terms was assigned to Wales since the devolution Acts were passed.