Sanctions Implementation and Enforcement

Lord Northbrook Excerpts

Thursday 15th May 2025 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Lab)]

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Purvis—yes, this Government like to deliver promptly. I similarly did not anticipate being back here discussing this Statement quite so soon, not least because I had it down at 6 pm in my diary, so I ran very fast in heels from the department.

I welcome the fact that noble Lords have encouraged us to go further, and I note the comments that were made on different sanctions, including on China and others. Obviously, we do not comment on future designations—we have rehearsed that line many times in this Chamber—but we do listen when noble Lords make these kinds of observations and encourage the Government. We take these things on board and listen to what is said, but we obviously do not comment ahead of time.

I take the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, on verbiage; that is entirely fair. We try our best with these things. I believe that what the report is saying is clear, but we should be open to improving specific language where we can.

I understand the point on early settlement. All I will say is that it is just an additional tool: sometimes it is appropriate, sometimes it is not. It is important that we use it only when it is the right thing to do, when it has the effect that we want and it is not a less impactful option. I understand the concern—it is legitimate to raise it—but it is important to have that as another way of tackling this issue.

We continue to look at the Syrian and Russian frozen assets. There is an issue around frozen assets, as we have explained many times. There are legal concerns as well as potential consequences for British assets in other parts of the world. We hear the argument, and we will continue to look at this.

On the point about enablers, we have regular and detailed engagement with partner countries, where appropriate. This is an important point, and the Government are mindful of making sure that we use our levers to address it.

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Callanan, for his welcome of this report, and I completely agree with every word he said about Putin, Ukraine and Russia. I am happy to acknowledge the work that the previous Government did on this. We are building on that, as he would want us to do.

I do not have anything new to say on the Chelsea Football Club issue; I wish I did. I wish we could get this resolved and get the money where it needs to be. We are continuing to work on this at every level, and I hope that we will be able to come back to the House with a different answer very soon.

The noble Lord, Lord Callanan, was absolutely right about communication with business and making sure that the rules and updates are as widely known as possible. Measures are suggested in the report that we will implement, including email alerts, and we will continue to work through the DBT and take other opportunities to make sure that that happens.

The noble Lord asked whether we will leverage our influence. The answer to that is absolutely yes. Generally, this work is ongoing. This is not something where you ever complete the task and say, “We’ve done all the work we’re ever going to do on sanctions, and we’ve got it completely right”. We are in competition with criminal gangs and with different ways of working, so we need to keep this evolving. We need to keep it under review, keep challenging ourselves and keep changing and innovating. I am grateful to the parties opposite for their support for that work.

[Lord Northbrook (Con)]

My Lords, I congratulate the Minister on the cross-government review and on adding a little bit extra to the Statement, which was most welcome. I have a couple of queries. I welcome both the Government’s and the Opposition’s actions on this. First, one problem with Russia is that it is able to evade sanctions by exporting oil through India and doing trade with China. I wonder if I could have the Minister’s comments on that. Secondly, I welcome the sanctions actions on the overseas territories, which, I hope, are generally well regulated. I wonder if the Minister could say a bit more about the BVI, which seem to be a slight exception to this?

[Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Lab)]

Yes, we discuss our concerns with all partner countries—where we have them—on Russian oil. On the OTs and BVI, we are working very closely with them on trying to make sure they have what they need to enable them to do the job we want them to do. I think we are getting there, and we speak to them very regularly. We are hopeful. The Minister for the Overseas Territories meets with them very regularly. He is deeply concerned about this. We had long discussions with them earlier this year, and we will keep the House updated if we need to.