Debates between Nigel Evans and Nadhim Zahawi during the 2019 Parliament

Higher Education Reform

Debate between Nigel Evans and Nadhim Zahawi
Thursday 24th February 2022

(2 years, 2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Jesse Norman Portrait Jesse Norman
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Of course, Mr Deputy Speaker—in my exuberance, I was enjoying that. Could I ask the Secretary of State to talk just a little more about how the package will work and how it will meet the twin goals of quality and inclusiveness, which are so central to our future development as a nation?

Nadhim Zahawi Portrait Nadhim Zahawi
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I am grateful for my right hon. Friend’s support for the package. He is absolutely right to cite those who come out of their time serving their country with the opportunity to feel that their Government will stand behind them for the equivalent of a four-year degree course. Crucially, they can pull it down in modules, which speaks to the dynamic high-skills, high-productivity economy. That will make a difference. On his point about inclusion, I know that he has been a great champion of the New Model Institute for Technology and Engineering in his constituency. That innovation in our HE sector is equally important. I see it as a priority in our levelling-up agenda.

Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans)
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Will Members please go straight to their question, with no preamble?

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Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker
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That was completely not what I asked Members to do—bad man.

Nadhim Zahawi Portrait Nadhim Zahawi
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I think I can say that, on this topic, the hon. Gentleman is the voice of reason on the Labour Benches. As he said, I have worked with him, and I know that he has been a great supporter of some of these thinking on this in his work with a think-tank. We are consulting with an open mind to bring people together across parties, and I make that offer to my opposite number as well. Let us try to take the yah-boo politics out of this and get it right, because it is a big moment when we are able to truly integrate FE and HE. And I do not hold it against the hon. Gentleman that he educated you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

Nadhim Zahawi Portrait Nadhim Zahawi
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his support for these proposals. I can confirm that the lowering of the threshold will not be retrospective. The £900 million will of course make a difference to the HE sector, and that has been welcomed across the sector. We are very ambitious in our targets for international students. We set a target of 600,000 by 2030, and we have just smashed it: we have reached a total of 605,000, and I hope we can continue to beat that target in years to come.

Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker
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I call Chris Bryant.

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Nadhim Zahawi Portrait Nadhim Zahawi
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The hon. Gentleman will know that we already work very closely with the Department of Health and Social Care to make sure we hit our target of 50,000 more nurses. We always keep that work and the bursaries we offer under review to make sure we continue creating sufficiency so that we have a world-beating NHS.

Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans)
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I thank the Secretary of State for his statement and for responding to questions for just short of an hour.