Universal Credit (Removal of Two Child Limit) Bill Debate

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Department: Department for Work and Pensions

Universal Credit (Removal of Two Child Limit) Bill

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Tuesday 3rd February 2026

(1 day, 9 hours ago)

Commons Chamber
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Pat McFadden Portrait The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Pat McFadden)
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I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Core to our belief is the idea that no one, no matter their background, should be trapped by their circumstances. People should have the chance to make the best life they possibly can. Poverty is a barrier to that ambition, and it makes it much harder for people to achieve their full potential.

This legislation has its roots in the change made during the Conservative years to introduce the two-child limit on support for families on universal credit. Let us be clear at the start about what this was always about. It was never really about welfare reform, nor was it even about saving money. No, this was always, first and foremost, a political exercise—an attempt to set a trap for opponents, with children used as the pawns. This was all about the politics of dividing lines: between the so-called shirkers and strivers, or the old distinction between the deserving and undeserving poor. Politics first and policy second, every time.

Oliver Dowden Portrait Sir Oliver Dowden (Hertsmere) (Con)
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The right hon. Gentleman has provoked me into responding. I served in the previous Conservative Government, and I was involved in all those decisions. There was a clear principle behind them: will people take responsibility for their own actions? There are thousands—millions—of people who choose not to have more children because they want to take responsibility for their lives, rather than the state doing so. With this change, the Government are saying to those people, “Not only will the state take responsibility, but you as the individual will have to pay for it through higher taxes.” That is the principle at stake here, and the Government are reversing a clear principled position taken by the last Government.

Nusrat Ghani Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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Order. Before the Secretary of State responds, let me say that there are many colleagues in the Chamber and I can understand how passionate this debate is, but let us try to keep the noise down when colleagues are contributing.